Best Posts in Thread: Helper Application from Lady_Hestia

Most people here need to understand aiming for higher staff positions is not something to be ashamed of and shaming them for wanting the ability to do more is not cool. Power hungry has been a term used to halt up and coming staff members and people in position of power for far too long. The worst part is it comes from people who simply misinterpret actions or things said.

Also that SS of that snap convo was worthless because it proved nothing bad about her.

Im a bit removed from the server but if theres one thing I do know how to do its read people and hestia the fact that you didnt mention your demotion and in your second post addressing comments you still didn't include it is somewhat worrying. I feel as though you should say why you were demoted, even if it is just your side of the story. Not doing so gives the appearance that you haven't accepted your reason or think its bull, either one is bad for your application.

 

Hey there Hestia, I'm going to reside at a -1 for a few reason.

1. I don't believe you addressed your demotion appropriately. Yes, you were demoted. No, you were not demoted for no reason. No, your demotion was not false. You handled your demotion extremely poorly, be it constantly messaging @KlutchDecals about getting back onto the team, or messaging myself about how your demotion was stupid, you were on track for SuperMod, @Courtneyyy was a bad SuperMod, and how upset you were that I would somehow be your "competition" when you are back on the team. For one thing, you seem to feel extremely entitled. You expect a position back on the team. You are not requesting, even though it may be typed out that way. I have a strong feeling that if this is denied, you will not be going quietly. I tried to stay as out-of-the-conversation as possible when you were complaining to me for about 2 days straight. I did not want to give my opinion, because my opinion was that everything you were demoted for was completely valid. I did not see you as someone that represented the team's values in a good manner.

2. You talk trash. A lot. Sure, we all have our enemies. I know that certain people around the server really get my goat sometimes, but I have actual reasons to be mad. You talked so much trash about Klutch and Courtney that I was about to block you on Snapchat. I was so tired of hearing your pity-party that I told Klutch exactly what you said to me. You are one of the rudest, most arrogant people I know on this server, and for no good reason! You had no base to show that Klutch or Courtney had ever wronged you, yet it was as if they had skinned your favorite pet and hung it from a clothesline.

3. This is a reason in and of itself: "Best smod team rn would you, me, muunkee, and del (cept del and I can't work together- not cuz we aren't friends or anything, we just legitimately can not work together lmao."

As I said before, strong -1.

 

Please remember this is a young ladies application, not a forum for people to debate opinions. Post your opinion and move on. If you disagree with someone else's post, then take it to another thread.

Be respectful, use common sense

 

You're one to talk, Mister-so-kick-happy-people-put-your-kicks-in-their-sigs.

I highly doubt any hard worker in the right mind would take a demotion well. Hestia was definitely one of the harder working mods in my time as staff, and sometimes I would just sit there in awe of how much dedication and time she put into doing staff work. Quality was excellent, amount of work done was so high, trello projects, staff meetings, overall effort and leadership - she had it all. She's pretty resilient too - the demotion might've been a very low point for her but she didn't spend two weeks crying about it and continued to come back. Everyone slips up - some more severe than others. Great. But she's learned her lesson and has continued to be a positive and active member of the community even though no longer holding a staff rank, and she's very active for a student who could be using the time for other things.

If she had expected a staff rank, she would have likely decided not to make another application but continued to press Klutch and Courtney for her rank back. And if they didn't promote her again, she might've just given up on the spot. But she didn't. She waited, wrote out an application, and posted it, waiting for a result. It might seem like desperation as it has been only about two weeks since she was demoted, but I would consider it determination to move forward.

In every staff member, you want someone who is good at 1) good with people 2) does their share of work 3) takes crap. She's done about the fullest extent of all of those and more. I'm all for giving her a second chance, and I'm trusting that she doesn't make the same mistakes that caused her demotion last time.

+1

 

I'm not sure why being goal-oriented is a bad thing, necessarily. Hestia was always a good helper/moderator who went above and beyond her duties to help players. Ultimately, her desire for supermod won't hurt the team--on the contrary, it would just mean that she'd be maximizing her talents, as Hestia has always shown an aptitude for organizing large-scale projects. It's not as if she was saying "I want supermod so I can demote all the helpers I don't like."

Furthermore, the amount of glee you show when posting the screenshot illustrates the underlying personal biases fueling your hunger for the application's denial. While you stated above, I'm not -1-ing her because I don't like her," I'm really uncertain you don't have any personal beef against Hestia. Although it's completely fine to think Hestia wouldn't be a capable helper, it's both selfish and unprofessional to include personal quarrels in your decision to +1 and -1.

Lastly, I'd like to take a step back from this discussion, as it's ultimately unproductive. I don't really know Hestia on a personal level, and any opinion I have comes from my relatively distant observations of her work as staff. In other words, I don't know her well enough to form a strong opinion either way.

 

While she was talking behind people's backs (like every human being does), you also went behind her back by telling the upper staff. She most likely trusted you, that's why she told you her feelings and thoughts. This just makes me believe that you are untrustworthy.
I find what you did to be just as bad.

Idk this just seems all hypocritical.

 

I don't see anything wrong with this; from my point of view, it seems to me that she is seeking super-mod to purely assist the server by looking for more power to make a change. Likewise, I can see and understand this perspective in trying to change the server. Of course, patience and good work ethics should be accounted for, which I believe Hestia possesses. Very much like how she's mentioned before, it's good to have goals to aim for. Excluding the fact that I have not had much experience with you, Hestia, I feel that you would be fit for the position again. Henceforth, I hope that you continue to support a positive and helpful attitude (unlike me).

On the subject of this matter, I just wanted to mention that:

is not entirely true. While it may seem like it, Hestia did not really mention much about ensuring her position as a staff member or egocentrism. Not to mention, you seem a little bit hypocritical yourself. On your last helper application, you seem to have written out your summary in a similar fashion; speaking in a way that states as if you were purely anticipating the position back onto the team.


Of course, this is not the most pressing matter currently, and it was not to my intent to complain about the behavior of others. Nevertheless, the point I am trying to make here is that you shouldn't put down a person for negative characteristics that also may apply to you. Especially work on weaknesses that you are aware of, and attempt to assist others in succeeding, instead of attempting to compete. Not trying to purposely refute any of your beliefs or create a bad picture, just wanted to point several things out.

Occasionally, some people may forget this fact and try to apply for a staff position. This, I believe, is a fundamental reason that should be the true motive, whether it be directly or indirectly, for becoming staff. I completely agree with your reasoning here, as I do not see many negative attributes with Hestia, but a great notion to help others on the server. Consequently, I'd expect to see much change in the community, and I hope that it would make a positive impact on the server. Evidently, these advancements would occur over the course of future events. Despite the matter in which is being presented against the original applicant, I'm at a +1 for now.

 

As a staff member, I think it's very silly of you to vote negatively on her application after you guys have had major complications with one another lately.

If you look at my comment above, I am not really supporting Hestia. But Klitcher, c'mon. You clearly don't want her as staff for personal reasons, and whether your points are valid or not, the decision was made out of personal bias.

 

Send a dm you've got this.

My vote stay the same. (to make this comment relevant)

 

I have avoided addressing my demotion because it's really messy in my opinion(and staff gave me to ok to exclude it). But if you want to message me here or on teamspeak I'll be happy to answer all the questions you have!

 

I agree with this statement tbh
My rating stands.

 

After reading the concerns people have with me I'd like to sincerely say thank you for bringing these up.

Here's how I plan to deal with these issues

Full of it/acting superior
I need to remember that I'm not perfect. My opinions don't matter more than anyone else's. I will also try to be an better listener. This might be the hardest thing to fix for me but I'm going to try!

Trash talk
Some of the things I'm accused of saying are not true. However I did trash talk. I didn't understand that what I was doing was not ok. I thought that because it wasn't in bad spirit it was ok. I now see it's not and I need to learn to be confident enough to talk to people directly. Truth is, I'm easy to anger but I forgive even easier. I'm sorry to those I hurt and please know that I wasn't trying to be cruel and I dont hate you. I know that if someone did this to me I'd rather them come to me than spread rumors.

Power hungry
During my time on staff I loved all the work I did and I was addicted to it. I loved being a leader, I loved helping people, and doing trello work. I became obsessed with trying to do more and that's what a promotion meant to me. I didn't even realize it! If I'm accepted back on the team I'm going to go slower, put some of the effort I put here into real life, and try to form better relationships with my coworkers.

I am beyond sad that my relationships with people and the staff team here have suffered because of me and I hope this is the first step to remedy that. I'll ask of you to please talk to me if I do anything you dislike. Anything from a simple comment I made to the way I treat people.

 

I don't think it's wrong to have goals. I'll elaborate more tomorrow after some sleep.
I appreciate all the feedback, even the negative stuff!
This is a good experience for me to be able to better myself.
=)

 

Member Name Lady_Hestia

Additional In Game Names: N/A

How old are you? 16

Location: EST

Do you have TeamSpeak? Yes

How many hours per day do you play MeepCraft? (weekdays) 2-5

How many hours per day do you play MeepCraft? (weekends) 10

Have you ever been staff on this or any other server? Yes

References: Please give IGN's CyborgZeroX
CluelessKlutz
XxAdotxX

When did you join Meepcraft? July 2013

Introduction: During my past two runs as staff all I ever wanted to do was give back to the server. But now I believe that not only do I want to give back to the server- I want to make it a better place. I want to be someone you feel safe talking to about anything and am working to become that person. If you guys want to know more about me come and message me sometime. I don’t hide anything.
I don't know what else you guys want to know about me so I'll move on. =)

Why should you be Helper? I think one of my main qualities is leadership. I constantly asked for projects and suggested some myself. I’ve done projects that have taken an hour to three weeks. Whenever something was on trello I did an outline for it. I like to think my outlines were top notch. Even when 90% of my trello work got archived that didn’t stop me from continuing to do it. Soon enough from helpers to fellow mods asked me to train them on trello outlines and useage. I also began a new method of training that broke it up so that new helpers weren’t bombarded with information all at once. If I’m not doing modreqs, writing outlines, working with other staff members, or tracking hackers, I’m engaging with players. One thing I want to bring to the staff team in particular is player staff engagement. I want to bring back town hall meetings, get players involved with trello, (it’s not just for techs, admins, and aliens!) and really make the community feel connected.
I also think my openness is a strength, although could be a weakness in some cases. For example, I will be open about my opinions, goals, etc. People end up using that against me. However it also means I do not lie. And that anyone can come to me about anything. This also means I will never manipulate people and won’t use a facade. I’m also open about my weaknesses and that helps me overcome them much easier. Such as pettiness- I’ve found I can be petty. Now that I accept that I can work towards recognizing and stopping it.
I am very diplomatic in meetings and can mediate both sides of an argument. Especially on teamspeak. Which I’m active on. On projects and ban reports I find it fun to be organized although my thoughts and room are anything but!
Overall I believe I brought a lot to the team before and will be a great asset in many areas again.

What are your weaknesses? I will put everyone before myself. Actually let me rephrase that. I do not stick up for myself. If someone wants something I have a hard time saying no. Usually I get out of these situations by making excuses.
I also have a hard time with working memory. A luring case might take me longer than an average person because I need to remember what I have already gotten.
I have a weakness in the area when it comes to maturity. I mean look at my app! It's not in the professional style I used last time but I want to let you guys see my other side- one more silly where I let my hair down. I think maturity comes with work and if someone can prod me from now and then about my maturity I think I'll soon be able to recognize and deal with it myself.
And of course this aren’t all my weaknesses (I could never list them all) but I think these would affect my staff work the most

Please give any other information you might think is useful for us to know: Communication is key. Need to know anything? Talk to me! (Or tell me to shut up if I'm being stupid!)
Thanks for reading. I really hope I get a chance to come back to the team.

 

Hello Hestia,
You were a good worker throughout forums, in game, and on trello, but you got demoted for a big reason. I think its great to set a goal for yourself and compete yourself to achieve that goal. I don't think its great that you thought you were better than everyone else on the team and acted higher up then all of us. You tried to take control of the helpers and the mods when that wasn't your job. If you did get accepted, you expect a certain position higher than helper on the team and I personally don't trust you due to what you were demoted for. I don't care if you talk bad about me, but once your talking bad about my friends on the staff team, thats where the line ends.
My overall vote, -1.

 

I am surprised your application is slightly hypocritical from when you replied to my helper application to what you were concerned about when I re-applied.

demotion was not addressed

But in all seriousness you and I got along and I don't mind if you rejoin the team or not because I know you will dig you head into trello doing work. But to me you seemed to be on a high horse towards the end of your time as a moderator.

 

I don't agree with this at all. I'm not trying to argue with you Bob, I'm just going to clarify my point.

Yes, part of the reasons that I -1'd the app happened in a personal situation, but that does not mean that they didn't influence how I see her as a staff member and player. She was inappropriate in how she spoke about others, dealt with others, and how she handled her demotion. Yes, this -1 is out of bias because I don't think she can do a good job as a Helper anymore. I'm not -1-ing her because I don't like her.

In addition, we have had no complications with each other. I am yet to get in an argument or fight with Lady_Hestia. I don't see where that concern comes from.