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What is the most basic human right?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Ranger0203, Jun 5, 2016.

  1. WeAreNumberUno

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    then again, what about the dogs they make smell idiots poop for cocaine? If i were a dog i would be occupy pet-co for better dog rights!
     
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    "what is the most basic human right"
    you didn't ask for most basic right. animals as a whole don't have any rights, only specific species. we fall under a specific genus, family, order, class, subphylum, and phylum of animal . We have rights because of this specification, you can't ask the question broadly by implying the deconstruction of our classification.
    "what is the most basic human (homo sapien) right?" is far different than asking "what is the most basic animal right?" because you skipped from our species to our kingdom, why not skip all the way to our domain? What's the most basic eukarya right?
     
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    thats great @j32400 you're a true millennial.
     
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  5. Ranger0203

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    I guess what I was asking was: Why is that which makes us superior to other animals our most basic right? For instance: One might argue that all living beings have a right to life. That would be a human right (as it applies to humans) as well as an animal right.
     
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    humans dont have rights

    #freetheanimals
     
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    but saying "all living beings have a right to life" implies a higher power which could assign or take this right away, which there is not. all living beings can't have a right to life as the cycle of life wouldn't be able to take place. As stated before, animals don't have any rights. 'Animals' is a category, and there are no rights given to the category by any higher being, but rather rights are assigned to species by humans. The only reason the concept of "rights" exists is because humans are the apex predator with complex thought. It is our most basic human right because without it we wouldn't be able to separate ourselves from the species of animals we assigned rights to.

    Rights assigned by species don't always apply to other species. A right to speech wouldn't apply to but a few apes, a right to bear arms doesn't apply at all, freedom of religion doesn't apply at all, etc. There is no higher power than human to assign rights, and the basic principle which makes us human is our ability to think complexly and creatively - which is expressed through speech. Denial of this expression denies our humanity, making it our most basic human right.
     
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    Hard to tell so I played it safe by being sarcastic as well ;)
     
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  10. Ranger0203

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    Uhhhh, I believe there is.
    Anything that can kill something can take life away.
    http://aldf.org/resources/advocatin...s-of-the-united-states-of-america-and-canada/

    Rights can be taken away, you know. Look at any country that doesn't recognize freedom of speech/the press, of any other freedom.

    Lol, it's actually hard to tell whether the reason we think is because we were the apex predator, or the reason we're the apex predator is the because we think.

    That makes sense.

    So would denying our right to live (we're not human anymore if we're dead).

    Personally, I like the right of self-determination, and all rights that stem from that (Freedom of speech, right to defense of self and family [right to bear arms], etc)
     
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    Yes, it's very important that everybody has the right to express their individuality as long as I (as a white person) don't want to express my individuality by taking part in trends from other cultures, because that's bad.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 4, 2016, Original Post Date: Jul 4, 2016 ---
    I agree.

    I think that our most basic right(s) would be that which is shared with animals and whatever is not shared with other animals is what builds us up on a higher level.

    A lot of animals are legally protected from being killed, which supports my opinion that the right to life would be the most basic human right.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 4, 2016 ---
    People can take away other people's right to life the same as they can take away other people's right to free speech.
    They still have a temporary right to live though. If a temporary right to live isn't a right to live, then couldn't the same be said about the right to free speech. Someone can't have free speech forever, as that would also prevent the cycle of life from taking place.
    Sure, but a lot of animals are given the right to life by humans, so we share that right with all of those animals.
    But out most basic right should be what is shared with animals. Our rights that aren't shared with other animals build on top of our basic rights, separating us from them.
    The right to life is shared with the most species, even if you only count ones that have been given the right to life by humans. Since it's shared throughout the most species, I would argue that it should be regarded as the most basic.
    The right to live is what makes thinking and speaking possible; therefore, the right to live is more basic since the right to free speech builds off of it.
     
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    Life. The right to life is the right from which all others are given. Without life, rights are irrelevant.
     
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    Death is the most basic right, it is all that is certain, something one deserves the right to, something one desires after time
     
  14. Ranger0203

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    It's not a right, it's an inevitability, and not even worth protecting, because you can't take it away.
     
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    Unless it's in a Sci-Fi novel or series.

    See Captain Jack Harness
     
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    I think the most important rights that humans should be entitled to, are to live and to be aloud to speak their own opinions without discrimination.
     
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    to own semi automatic weapons
     
  18. Ranger0203

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    What if my opinion is that I hate gays?
     
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    We are born with no rights, it is just a human concept that we came up with
     
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    Besides the obvious basic necessities, I'd say the right to communicate
     

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