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The near death of a little boy's life

Discussion in 'Debates' started by nhjed, Jun 8, 2016.

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Did the gorilla have to be shot?

Poll closed Jun 29, 2016.
  1. Yes (explain)

    20 vote(s)
    46.5%
  2. No (explain)

    23 vote(s)
    53.5%
  1. SX1

    SX1 Celebrity Meeper

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    I believe it was extremely bad parenting to let your child fall in in the first place. I'm pretty sure they had some tranquilizers nearby, but just imagine if you were in that situation. Quick thinking /=/ best decisions. They chose to eliminate the gorilla and there is nothing we can do about it. The only thing we can do now is prevent it for happening in the future.

    Just apply this to you and your child's hands so they won't fall into a gorilla pit. (I'm pretty sure we've all seen this by now)
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  2. Sqreix

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    they won't use tranquilizers because according to that blonde guy if they do use tranquilizers to the gorilla it could cause a shock and no one knows what will happen next so they proceeded to use a bullet instead.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 9, 2016 ---
    who did this xd
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  3. _MacintoshWave_

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    I believe that Harambe shouldn't have been shot.
    I think people were freaked out because Harambe dragged the boy like that. But because the boy was so young, people freaked out even more.
    Harambe was described as a "gentle giant" by the zookeeper who raised Harambe since his birth.
    When the boy fell into the enclosure, Harambe did not attack, instead he approached the boy making no threatening gesture whatsoever.
    I think Harambe shouldn't have been killed, but at least he should have been tranquilized.
     
  4. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    As my post above said, tranquilizers could have taken up to ten minutes and could have easily caused the gorilla to be threatened and react poorly from the sting and the pain
    If it's too risky it just shouldn't happen, also if the boy was caused harm and the gorilla wasnt killed those parents could have easily sued that zoo
     
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  5. X11

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    Yes, the gorilla had to be shot.

    The boy did suffer bruises and a concussion. You might not have seen the full video, but he is dragged at high speeds.

    These types of gorillas are known to change behavior in an instant. One second it may appear as if it is protecting the child, but any second the gorilla could decide the throw the child or something else. If it wasn't shot, how would the gorilla react when people approached it to take the child from the gorilla?

    A tranquilizer would never work because right when the gorilla is shot, it will freak out and definitely harm the child. Tranquilizers take too long.

    // JB
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 9, 2016 ---
    This would be one of the worst things to do. This type of gorilla is known to turn it's behavior on a dime. A shot that doesn't kill it would cause the gorilla to get very angry.
     
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  6. OneBreadSlice

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    god this is like that stupid lion all over again.
     
  7. evilalec555

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    They will drag there own young like that to bring them near and if the gorilla wanted to harm the boy he could have killed him with one punch

    Also the zoo should have had tranquilizer sat the ready in case of incidents like this
     
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    Great, thanks for your contribution!

    I think we established earlier in the thread that a tranquilizer would not be fast enough, and could cause the gorilla to get angrier or something along those lines.

    In my opinion, the mother needs to be fined; it's clearly her fault that this child fell in. I didn't fall into an enclosure when I was three. Why? Because my parents were actually watching me.
     
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  9. The_Unkown675

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    I don't really care about this, but here's what I say.

    1.) American media is crap

    2.) This is an event that has been dragged out too much, people need to move on.

    3.) The Gorilla violently dragged the child across the pen, at that point he had to be considered a dangerous animal. And you can't leave a child with a dangerous animal. So they had two options, gun or tranquilizer. As they said the tranquilizer would've taken too long to take effect, and once the animal was shot could've done even worse things. Even though he might not have, it was too big of a risk. So are left with one option. Shoot to kill. It was the only way to safely secure the child without taking a big risk.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 9, 2016 ---
    1.) They do

    2.) This would not have worked as it would most likely angered the animal even more.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 9, 2016 ---
    Probably ~2 , but I get your point.
     
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  10. evilalec555

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    They didn't because they said it would take to long to get one and it would anger the animal
     
  11. The_Unkown675

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    What.
     
  12. Ranger0203

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    One gorilla died and everyone's making a big fuss... Thousands of people die every day and nobody cares.
     
  13. _MacintoshWave_

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    That is very true. Forgive my poor writing, I was quite dosed yesterday...
    I think that the zoo staff shouldn't have threatened Harambe's life at all. As I stated, Harambe was known for being very gentle.
    In fact, Gorillas in general have quite the reputation for protecting children who fall into their enclosures; In 1996, a child fell into the enclosure of Binti Jua the Gorilla. Binti Jua picked up the 3-year-old boy, brought him to the enclosure's entrance, and handed him to staff that returned the boy to his mother.
     
  14. CluelessKlutz

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    Did this gorilla also drag the boy across the enclosure?
     
  15. Splendy

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    If it's the boy I'm thinking of then when he fell in he was unconscious for 10+ minutes. Due to him being unconscious the gorilla saw 0% threat.

    Gorillas go 0 - 100 real quick


    you see how "gentle" and "kind" he looks until he smashes the window?

    If the man hadn't have released the young he would have killed the baby. If they're willing to kill their own young when provoked how do you think they're going to treat a human child?

    The zoo made the correct decision at the time and I shall defend that.
     
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  16. Ranger0203

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    The boy sustained serious injuries, including a concussion. I don't think gorillas give their young concussions.
     
  17. superbros1211

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    I think the main question is why didn't the mum do anything? The kid was saying that he wanted to get in several times...
     
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  18. Peero

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    Personally, I think that they should of tranquilized the gorilla. Wouldn't that have been a good solution? You can rescue the kid and save the gorilla. Also, the mother is a horrible mother is she let her child fall into a gorilla cage.
     
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  19. Marshy_88

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    They did not use tranquilizer a as it would take to long for them to work. This isn't the movies. Tranquilizer aren't instant.
     
  20. builderjunkie012

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    He did have to be shot. Tranquilizers are rather slow, and the larger the mass of the animal the slower they become. Once someone is inside an animal containment the life of the person is much more valuable than that of the animal. Plus, could you imagine what a lawyer would do once he found out that someone had died because a zoo cared more for the animals than its own patrons?
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 11, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 11, 2016 ---
    On a side note why do we care
     
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