Best Posts in Thread: Skyblock Reset

Ok I realise that some of you are unhappy that some people have spawners. They were definitely in the shop for longer and the shop was not remade around the spawners. Yes there has been changes that some of you are not happy with. There are a lot of new players that were very happy with our skyblock additions. We will take all suggestions into consideration.

You know as being a staff member previously, that suggestions are gone over in a meeting. You need to be patient.
We are not resetting skyblock, yes there may have been mistakes made, and were fixed as much as we thought necessary. Just like in life. None of us are perfect, everyone makes mistakes (as in not everyone will be happy).

 

I just bought a new house with a huge yard, I have a full time career with excellent pay, I have a fiance and will be getting married in November, My mom doesnt have a basement nor do I live there, and Im currently painting my new office. But thats all IRRELEVANT UNLESS IM #1 SKYBLOCK ISLAND!!!!!!!!

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It really doesn't make sense to erase the hours people put into their island just to appease a digital list, especially since Skyblock has never been a competitive gamemode nor is it one today. Additionally any competition of building a better island doesn't lie with a numerical score assigned to blocks that you may or may not put down.

The idea of skyblock having some unified economy inherently attacks the core attraction of the game itself - which is scarcity and challenge. What the goal kind of seems to be from an outside look is to turn skyblock into Towny 2.0 filled with grinders the sole pursuit of generating a digital currency.

Skyblock is about building an awesome island with what you started with, with a group of friends, nothing competitive about that.

 

-1.
How did players get the spawners in the first place?
The spawners were 200k skybucks, which as it was before, was an astronomical price. The people who did buy one or several spawners had to work their butt off completing every possible challenge, and selling all their things to get it. And it would be reset only because new players, who usually are lazy and do not complete challenges because usually rich people who do have spawners (I gave out 1.7 mil skybucks in the past 4 months) give them money to help them out?
The spawners are the fruit of hard work and effort, people who weren’t ready for the labor didn’t get them. A spawner wasn’t one day of work, we’re talking weeks.
It’s like if you’ve created a town, really big like Legend because you started before everyone else, and once you’ve reached your apogee, someone tells you it will be reset because a segregation is being made, the bigger town get richer and richer because all new player join them and it attracts many players, and the little towns get poorer and poorer because no one joins them. Of course, the new towns will love it, because they’ll have a shot, but they put in much less effort than the big ones have.
The only solution I see would be to add back spawners, but not iron golems, just mob spawners, from which you could sell loot for a smaller price.

 

No im just tired of seeing people like DK cry over everything lol. Its gotten to the point where its just sad. Yo

Here is the issue I have.
I get that Im "Supposed to" do things in your eyes. However when I see people trying to use bully tactics on a minecraft server to get their way, I turn off my listening ears and get as sarcastic as the people making the (demands). When a post this this

You lose all credibility in the argument. The issue is no longer about baltop, skyblock, ect and the thoughts that may have been there in the beginning, Its now a flame fest with toxic players that dont know anything about servers or running them. Its just the same old people finding a new thing to complain and rant about. Thats why people like DK have gone to the "troll" side of things because they're irrelevant and offer nothing but negativity without any actual effort to change them. They just like to find the new thing to complain about and do it, pretending they're winning every argument while hiding behind a forum. Its really really sad and to be honest I dont care how people like this see me, because theirs no good from any side of the bias standpoint they bring.

Keep in mind, this is a reoccurring thing with certain players who just cry about literally everything.
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Now if you want to offer me an actual suggestion about how we can fix this really tiny dilemma what you've made into a huge sob fest, please offer. Im always on teamspeak but im sure youll just cry here more for some publicity. We can all get together and actually go over some things but I wont reply more here as its a very non efficient way to handle any type of change discussion.

 

As an administrator to this server, do you really need to be more sarcastic and hostile than most of the player base? I get we can be tough to handle, but you’re the one whose supposed to put on the fake smile and consider our suggestions; not patronize the community for expressing their displeasure.

 

LOL

can I tell a story?

there was a player one time who got bored of towny, tired of his mayor, so he decided to try skyblock
he rallied some friends to join his island
he afk'd, grinded, fished for hours, and he never got rich.
he didn't care though it was still a fun game, even if he was poor and could hardly afford anything,
one time, he logged on and it took 3 minutes or more to teleport to his island.
the update had changed, now he couldn't dualhand a rod and axe
rip grinding
he quit, not because of the economy's wildly broken state, but because teleporting to skyblock is nearly impossible with 100+ ms ping, and staff had broken the only features that made it different than anyone else
at this point, he realised any other skyblock server would be a better experience
disappointed yet again, he went back to being toxic and homeless in towns

oh yeah that dude was me
also most of my friends quit so rip 3 or 4 active new players xD
consider fixing the teleport time as skyblock just isn't worth waiting for currently in my opinion
I worked for hours and got practically nowhere, I agree wholeheartedly with kling's principles, go try to restart your island
@NinjaRoxy
use an alt. don't cheat or anything but actually try... you'll never get anywhere without IG spawners lol

 

In what town, do some elite towns have access to items that break the whole economy, and any player that didn’t get the item in time will be disadvantaged forever?

In the case of skyblock, if you didn’t get a spawner during the week they were being sold, you can NEVER surpass anyone remotely active with iron golem spawners. Riri, you look at the fact you won’t have this massive, unfair advantage over other players because you worked hard for a week. Imagine working for the next few years, and not being able to surpass you because of the impossibility of acquiring iron golem spawners like some of the top islands have. The issue is not players owning the spawners, the issue is the bull crap method that this update was implemented with. I mean no personal offense to those involved in implementing these changes, but skyblock at this point is ruined for anyone without iron golem spawners.

I’m a huge +1 for the suggestion, kling and I already talked about this in game quite a bit; and he put it in the best way possible: We can either reset at this point, or further the damage and allow spawners to be sold again. But we CANNOT continue to allow this absurd gap between who can win skyblock, and who cannot.



Nobody has addressed it, but for discussion purposes; could a starting bonus for those in the is top and those that owned iron golem spawners, be awarded so that players that put effort into getting spawners can have some kind of payment for their aggravation at a reset?

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What players are playing skyblock? I haven’t seen many players in the world in the last two weeks, and our player count has been at a high.

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How come islands like Scheck__ or mine got passed up in less than a week of this update, when both of those islands have been worked on for months (I would know, I helped). This update for the spawners allowed for people to get iron golem spawners, farm the crap out of them for a week while still getting more, then spamming iron blocks for levels. Not only spawners, we added fly boots so that people don’t have to worry about falling off their island, there is no challenge.

So, we allow spawners to be in the shop for a few days. People work hard to earn one, then grind it out until they get two, and so on until they have the amount of spawners they desire. How is a player supposed to catch up to someone with 4+ iron golem spawners, when the chance of earning a spawner in a crate is astronomically low, and the chances of getting an iron golem spawner is even lower than that. Having the chance to win a spawner, is not going to justify how the server stopped selling spawners after so many people already are taking advantage of them, and the economy was remade around them.

As I said already in one of these replies, earning a second iron golem spawner was a matter of grinding out the first iron golem spawner. If we’re going to side with people who worked hard, then why would The is top drastically change in one week, when it hadn’t drastically changed in the last year skyblock has been here, ever. People worked hard for a short period of time, and got a reward. That is perfectly okay. If I worked ten times as hard, for ten times as long as the people did to buy their iron golem spawners, where would I be? I wouldn’t have one iron golem spawner, because the odds are completely against anybody getting them.

And what about the players that just joined, or couldn’t play when the spawners were in shop? This suggests that new players missed the opportunity, so now they can’t reap any rewards? This update disadvantages anyone without iron golem spawners, and adding them for a short period of time then removing the sale of them, is why this is an issue.

Want to know why no one complains about the cobble gen extras? Because everybody can get them. I argue against the unfair bits, and everyone has equal opportunity to get a cobble gen, so there is the reasoning.

What is the solution? I offered up mine in a different suggestion that you haven’t addressed (that I’ve seen yet, sorry if you have already replied).

Feel free to @ me next time. I sold my iron golem spawners for a towny tank. I helped the server, and I knew I wouldn’t enjoy how the changes to skyblock were made.

Feel free to read my suggestion, this is sort of addressed. But I still believe at this point that a reset would be the best option.

Again, the odds are so terrible that no one can catch up.

Nothing can compare to the economic dominance gained by iron golem spawners. To be able to make the amount of profit iron ingots give, while only needing to afk, leaves no other route that could be even close to as prosperous as the iron golem spawners.

You’re right, skyblock is fun, for all players. But the implementation of this update was completely wrong. When we discussed an op skyblock while I was staff, I suggested it be a second world. That wasn’t just because the normal skyblock is fun. Transitioning into a new style of play is hard, and we see how the transition was too much, because atm skyblock just isn’t quite right.

Explain the challenge of skyblock to me? Half the challenge before his update was managing to not fall off your island, and fly boots removed that. Another challenge was gaining minerals such as iron or gold from mobs. But spawners removed that. Another challenge was making money, but the current challenge system ruined that.

Op skyblock is not challenging. It is meant to be a grinding sort of game. Pick whether you want this skyblock to be hardcore, or overpowered, and stick to that decision. You need to pick a mindset for the world, because this is not challenging in the faintest.

the custom enchants were a brilliant addition, good work.


I apologize because I know everyone will likely mistake my passion about skyblock as inflammatory towards Roxy. I mean you no offense, this is my opinion, please don’t take it as a spark to a flame war.

 

My island is the top island and it came from a lot of hard work, not afking. Yes there is prob a few that do. The spawners were in the shop for much longer than a few days, and were then shifted to the crates. Yes, if you are lucky you can get a spawner for just logging in a getting a key. Those that bought them worked long and hard to raise the money for them.
My island has 8 or 9 full layers with things on it, that was not done by spawners, that was done by a lot of hours work.
Anyone that worked hard enough when the spawners were in the shop could've bought them.
I was probably the last to get any of them. And no I don't have heaps, as many would think, as it took a long time to save up for them.
The exact same way as it is to save up for the cobble gen extras, yet noone is complaining about that.
The solution is not resetting skyblock, as the people that have them have worked extremely hard for them.
I know the main one complaining about these even sold some of his to buy a rank.
If they were added back in the shop for a high price, would then there be complaints as to the richer people could buy more?
All the spawners that were available in the shop are now in the crate that you have a chance to win for logging in.
As goes in any world, changes are made. We have added in more things that can be sold to the shop.
We have had a lot of players join Meep just because they heard about the skyblock and have loved it.
Yes it is a totally different eco to towny.
Skyblock is supposed to be a challenge, it's totally different to towny. And yes we added a few fun and exclusive items in. Like the crazy enchant books, which most players liked as it was something different.
We will take all suggestions into consideration though.

 

get a job, get married, stop playing video games, get out of her basement, and do something with your life lol

 

maybe instead of us coming to you, or you coming to us, we could compromise in the middle?
that would certainly be more productive
maybe you should try forums (where the argument already is) or discord (which is available to everyone)

 

You are totally wrong with this comment. I did work hard on my island and there was no cheating involved.
My island had passed the top island before I even got a spawner. So you can do it if you work hard enough.
As for the issues with teleporting to skyblock. This is a known issue and Im sure lord has it on his list, but atm there are other things he is doing.

 

I could say something but at the same time i don't want to get yelled at even tho its true xddd

But i'd like to see something for players who have spawners to get something if sky block is reset.

In my case/defense, i had to spend towns money just for one sky block spawner, 200k each, which, in skyjack currency, would equal about 2 mil each spawner.

Emperormeznik and I worked, even split some money to just getting spawners, and i had to sell ranks to earn the amount of money for just 4 iron golem spawners.

I'm down for a reset, which is what I wanted way back then until a few people saw that it wasn't needed even tho it was seeing how players who don't understand towny at all head to something they're familiar with, that being sky block. But now I'd just like something in return for wasting time and effort into getting spawners. Or add more things to shop to sell. Even though its said that theres stuff in sbshop that you can sell, it'd be nice to add more such as wheat (which is a bit hard to grow) and cactus (which can be sold for a cheap amount just like in /warp farming). But my idea wasn't accepted lol so gl with this, probably could get accepted since lord is poop like some people xddddd

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(To add to Klings point about spawners, theres a way to make a iron golem generator using villagers, but even with thats its nearly impossible because 1. the only current way to get villagers is through a zombie villager which has only a 5% chance of spawning and takes ages and can get mixed up with all other mobs in your mob grinder, and 2. villagers need to be as far away from other mobs to not despawn, and to add to this point, you need to stay with the zombie villager and have the potion and gold apple with you so that it doesn't despawn when you leave cause it does that. And to finalize that point, you need 2 villagers so they can breed and its a pain getting 2)