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Hi,

I've been on and off the server for a couple years now; mostly inactive after the whole Minecraft EULA enforcement happened.

It would be a lie to say that Meepcraft was doing great before the whole EULA situation, but it was in a pretty decent state. After the enforcement of the rules started, the situation was dire considering Meepcraft's ridiculous rank prices were rationalized by the perks you were getting - and most of those had to be get rid of in order to comply with the EULA.

Some perks were removed, some were kept, there was no certainty and no clear discussion on how we would be moving forward. I remember there were some promises regarding the perks - "we are getting everything back", which lead to the whole debacle with Meepcraft going rogue (with a 3rd party launcher required to log in for a lot of people), then it was back to a nice, EULA-complaint server yet again, but the chaos which was created surrounding ranks was never cleared up, even many months after the fact.

Look no further than the very website we are on right now. Go to the store section, open up ranks and look at the perks that are listed there. From the top to the bottom it is all just cosmetic rewards (still for almost the same ridiculous prices as prior to the changes - more to that later).

Right. Why does it not say that Ultimates have /fly in Towns? That /chest 1,2,3 is still a thing for a couple of ranks? That we have /nv and the ability to claim more plots in creative? I am just naming a few things from the top of my head, I am sure there's more of this. Outdated stuff like /fix, /feed, etc. sending you to the website to upgrade your rank. Why?

Both the website and the in-game spawn fail to mention those perks - quite conveniently. So you make the ranks look EULA-complaint, but they simply are not. You are still selling in-game advantages for real life money.

Next issue. The /help GUI in-game has been outdated ever since the aforementioned changes. It still lists all of the old perks which, all things considered, is ironically more accurate than the description in spawn and on the website. Did no one bother to update it? No, I don't think so. We have more than enough talented and motivated people in the staff team right now... it's just such a sensitive and clouded topic that no one dares to touch it. There is only one person who should come clear with this and sort the mess out. @Fuzzlr

As a pretty experienced Minecraft and Meepcraft player, I am left confused by the state of the rank system. Where do I go to look for accurate information on what I am paying for (or rather paid for)? My sincere apologies if there actually is an up to date command or site which does indeed have this information, but I for one can not find one and even if it exists, it still does not affect my previous points.

Alright, why should you all care? I take it, most of you have a pretty good idea what your rank does and how things operate. The problem is with new players.

I for one was looking forward to every next tier of the rank system. There were cool perks, still for crazy prices, but it could be justified. Now, if a 12 years old Bob sees what the server has to offer; like an orange chat with a few particle effects, disguises and other fancy stuff for 200 dollars, he might reconsider donating. But what do I know, today's children are pretty weird.

I have noticed you have been reducing prices and even though it must hurt for the people who bought those ranks for the original price, it is a good step going forward if you want to be a cosmetics only server (or at least advertised as one). It's not my place to make any suggestions in this direction, but having a base 10 dollars rank with a factor 1,5 steps ($15 for premium, $22.5 for exclusive, all the way up to $76 for Ulti) would be more reasonable... but hey, besides the point now.

The point here is; for a 500 players server a $320 dollars rank overloaded with perks could be justified. A $200 dollars cosmetics-only rank in a server peaking with 50 players is just silly - especially with the way you advertise it.

Still the main point and a TL,DR here is: @Fuzzlr, clear up the ranks mess. There is not one single place with accurate information on rank perks. Your website and spawn conveniently only lists EULA-complaint stuff, while your /help guide still has the old era perks - some of which work, some don't.

With the website/spawn you are avoiding the EULA - breaking one law, with the /help guide you are straight out lying to your customers spending real life money on the server - breaking another law.

 

And it probably isnt pure coincidence that Meep hasn't been removed from the blacklist.

 

Can you win the chance to have more plots in creative? Or is that a thing everyone has now?

Thanks for addressing this point, however.

EDIT:

Alright. I went ahead and checked this out myself.

My main being a Supreme can claim at least 5 plots (didn't try more).
My alt being a VIP can only claim 2 plots.
I would assume a citizen can only have 1 creative plot.

This is in direct violation of:

"If all players get access to a feature such as a plot of land, can I sell access to multiple plots for hard currency?
No - that would be a gameplay affecting change, so it’s not allowed. All player who access your server must have the same gameplay features offered to them. The same rule applies to items, such as potions."

Which I am not paraphrasing now, but taking directly from this site:

Let's talk server monetisation - the follow-up Q+A

I am confident I could find more loop holes like this.

On the other hand:

"Can I sell ranks on my server?
Yes. Ranks are allowed so long as any perks gained are cosmetic. Coloured names, prefixes, special hats etc. are fine."

This would explain why the spawn and website only lists cosmetic perks. Also taken from the official Mojang page.