PUBLIC BANS

Notice how the people arguing against it are the people who don't log on anymore. I don't think you should give your opinion on a change in game if you don't play in game.

 

Everyone should voice their opinions. Staff never said "exclude certain players." Plus, your salty because other people are disagreeing with you.

Alot of people who are banned appeal anyways though. Plus, I remember a few town staff that were given their positions back after their ban.

 

Your logical fallacy is ad hominem

 

hes not exactly wrong

 

Yes, why listen to a point that might apply completely just because someone doesn't play in-game? I don't see how it changes the fact that MeepCraft is harming itself by practising something that can really only affect it negatively. It's just common sense.

 

I honestly don't see how this could effect meep any more negatively than anything else that's currently going on, this is the least of the staff's worried really

 

The thread asks whether or not I feel it should be removed or stay, so I answered how I felt.

 

Personally I believe the red line through someones name is public enough.

 

I think what the majority of people really want to see is how long the player is banned for. Especially if the player is a friend, can I just wait half an hour for the ban to expire or is it longer?

compromizing - It will show kicks and bans with player names with no reason applied to it so you would only see "Kling has been banned for 1 day." We will leave out the reason of "He ate all my food and must be punished."

 

What about us who have worked for the server for countless hours and played an integral part of rebuilding the server after it was stolen from Fuzzlr and played a key role recruiting many of the great staff and architects this server has known?

There have been many admins this server has had, including Cooleysworld and Klutchdecals that wouldn't have even been staff if I hadn't encouraged them to do so.

Should I get the right to speak my humble opinion respectfully?

 

I still play, and it's a nightmare to watch. We talk about being family friendly harming the server, but not a word about constant spamming of "L O L," "Roasted," "Savage," "Idiot," every time there's a ban. It's hard to carry on a mature environment, one of the reasons the community has lasted this long, with this in place. Besides, why is it my business to know when Vkl has been duping, or when Pandabear filed troll modreqs. If the staff team really wants to be more open, allow staff to tell us ban lengths, not reasons (There's already the policy that allows for reasons regarding a town to be known). Not to mention, we get forums threads when a staff members misses one letter when kicking someone, so what happens when they mess up a perm ban?

 

That's how I've always seen it, I'm always happy to tell a player that their mate will be back on the server in a few hours or what not.

 

At the end of the day, staff are going to get hate for what they ban for no matter what. Why not make global chat more entertaining while we're at it?

To the point about them just being customers - yes they are but they are also kids mostly under 18. For the ~3 years that we had the bans public, there were seldom major conflicts of interest (donations and the bans being public). If the majority of players, who are going to donate, want it, then why not?

 

Because no one is going to not donate as a result of removing it, but they may leave as a result of harassment from a ban. All it takes is one bad apple seeing a player banned, then harassing that individual after they return.

 

No they won't. When we had 600+ players, I do not recall a single instance of this happening. Source: was staff.

 

But I can show you a quantifiable amount of players who have left due to the immature atmosphere that is being cultivated, which this is absolutely a part of.

 

Not to mention it opens up trouble for staff by giving players the ability to badmouth staff as a result of it and create a negative atmosphere, and not only that, it gets tiresome for staff when players complain about ban reasons/lengths, etc.,

 

Sure but most of the players left after the bans went private.

They already get poop for their ban reasons. They shouldn't be banning people for ridiculous things anyways so there really shouldn't be so much of a problem. The most you're gonna get is like "oooh sucka" or something.

 

I truly appreciate all of the rational thinking and thoughts that you guys have contributed through these threads. Quite an interesting conversation! Fun for me to read.

 

You know what this should be? A public town hall meeting in the discord. We haven't had one of those in ages. Also to update us on other things going on in the server maybe.