1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Hi there Guest! You should join our Minecraft server @ meepcraft.com
  3. We also have a Discord server that you can join @ https://discord.gg/B4shfCZjYx
  4. Purchase a rank upgrade and get it instantly in-game! Cookies Minecraft Discord Upgrade

President Trump

Discussion in 'Debates' started by creepersareokay, Nov 8, 2016.

?

How Will Trump Do In Office?

  1. Good, mang

    44.2%
  2. Not so good, mang

    55.8%
  1. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,042
    Likes Received:
    12,529
    Donald Trump rode a golf cart 700 yards instead of walking with world leaders

    Here are 8 embarrassing things Trump did on his European tour

    (Also, Saudi Arabia was never included in the Muslim ban, even though 11 of the 9/11 hijackers originated from Saudi Arabia)
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
  2. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    3,158
    Likes Received:
    7,314
    What's a REAL source and REAL proof?


    I liked his speech in Saudi Arabia, as I said above somewhere. He did a pretty good job of staying reasonably diplomatic, and didn't make too many waves. It was pretty good. However, I'm a little bit concerned that he just sold $350 billion worth of military hardware to Saudi Arabia. I'm not a huge fan of this, especially because I feel that Saudi Arabia is on its way to becoming the next Iran. Obviously right now, they're our "allies," but I don't know how long the pro-US sentiment will last. Their economy is growing at an unsustainable rate, unemployment is steadily rising, and people are becoming lazy and not willing to do manual labor, leading to imported workers from India and Nepal actually doing most of the construction projects. In a few years, oil will crash, the standard of living will plummet, and people will become hungry and unsatisfied, as social welfare projects run out of money. This will lead to an influx of Islamic radical groups like al-Qaeda, etc. gaining a lot of influence in the country, and the end of friendly Saudi-American relationships.

    But his Brussels NATO meeting was disastrous, from both a foreign relations and a PR standpoint.
     
  3. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,042
    Likes Received:
    12,529
    metr0n0me likes this.
  4. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    3,158
    Likes Received:
    7,314
    I did?
     
  5. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    467
    @Deinen
    I could honestly careless if he rides a golf cart? At this point, it's getting out of hand. WHO CARES THAT THE WAS ON A GOLF CART! Honestly lmao be forreal.
    As far as the other stupid article you posted, again, who cares. A hand shake? Oh wow, WHO CARES!? I wouldn't care if Obama did it, Clinton or anyone else because I don't nit pick!

    I know who was on the ban, Saudi Arabia has alot of Muslims so that's what I was referring to.

    @metr0n0me Give me a court case. That's PROOF! IF an impeachment process starts, then I'll be concerned.

    $110 Billion** and I'm so happy he did that. I couldn't be happier.
     
  6. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,042
    Likes Received:
    12,529
    Yeah but I thought he had stamina, unlike Clinton. Remember he kept saying she had no stamina?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 29, 2017, Original Post Date: May 29, 2017 ---
    So are happy he sold so much weaponry to the middle eastern nation that exports the most terrorists in the world? Odd.
     
  7. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    467
    Are you saying that every person that rides a golf cart has no stamina? I'm 18 and sometimes just don't want to walk. All Presidential nominees say weird things and or stretch the truth to make themselves look better. That was just a tactic Donald Trump used against Hillary Clinton.


    I am happy. I think its great. Keep Saudi Arabia on our good side and make $110 billion. I mean, I think Paul Ryan just got the wall money.
     
  8. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    3,158
    Likes Received:
    7,314
    Hot take of the day: within 15 years, the current regime in Saudi Arabia is gone, and replaced by an Islamic theocracy like Iran. Like actually, did the US not learn from selling tons of military hardware to the Pahlavis?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 30, 2017, Original Post Date: May 30, 2017 ---
    Yeah like actually, I'm really not quite sure why this is a big deal exactly.
     
    Blue_Marlin likes this.
  9. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    467
    We will have to see what happens. For now I mean we have $110 Billion and Saudi Arabia on our good side. I was pleased with his "World Tour" especially with Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia hasn't really greeted another President (from America, or anywhere really that I am aware of) like they greeted Donald Trump. I was happy. Maybe it will come back to haunt us, who knows. However, as of right now its doing just fine.
     
  10. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    3,158
    Likes Received:
    7,314
    But this kind of short-sighted thinking is what got us into trouble in the first place. Congratulations, we now have $110b to be wasted on inefficient and wasteful defense contractors, while Saudi Arabia stockpiles our weapons and probably lets them fall into the hands of bad guys 10 years down the road.


    Things coming back to haunt us need to be accounted for when making decisions. We can't simply make decisions based on short term risk-rewards--this is one of the huge problems with the US government historically, and one that I hoped Trump (as a businessman who needs to plan long-term solutions for things) would help fix.
     
  11. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    467
    Its not like we are selling them weapons that we cant fight against. Everything we are selling them we have more and better of.


    I guess what I am trying to say is that if we don't do business deals and or anything really because were too scared that it will haunt us in the future whether that be near or far. We wouldn't have a country that thrives. Sure there are somethings that we know for sure that will turn out good/bad but Saudi Arabia is an ally as of right now and I would like to keep it that way. Selling them weapons in my opinion only shows them that we are willing to work with them and remain allies. Shows that we trust them and would like to continue having a good relationship with them. In my opinion this is a good thing for America and Saudi Arabia.
     
  12. MeepLord27

    MeepLord27 Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    935
    I could be hilariously wrong, I've done really no research into this, but if saudi arabia has a great military, won't it be harder for a iranian-esque government to take over?
     
    Blue_Marlin likes this.
  13. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,042
    Likes Received:
    12,529
    Because it is yet another falsehood he used to attack someone, then display himself.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 30, 2017, Original Post Date: May 30, 2017 ---
    It helps but doesn't wholly prevent. Once oil prices finally fall off, Saudi Arabia's money will dry up, also their social programs. You'll be left with a largely poor religious conservative population with many radical clerics, a breeding ground of extremism.
     
    metr0n0me likes this.
  14. Erebus45

    Erebus45 Celebrity Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,229
    Likes Received:
    1,279
    This is a legitimate question so please don't think I am being sarcastic but I thought Trump's appeal was that he wasn't like every other politician that stretches the truth and tells white lies.
     
    cnkropp, Deljikho, metr0n0me and 2 others like this.
  15. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    467
    @Deinen My biggest problem with people who don't support Trump is not because they don't support him. It's because they nit pick everything he says/said/did/did not do. Sure, talk about him because of the wall but remember that huge outrage the left had when he "didn't wave to the crowd while getting on air force one for the first time"? Even if you don't support him, complain about REAL things not just stupid little things he does/doesn't do.

    @Erebus45 I do see what you are saying and to a small extent it's true. Trump did mention that he wasn't a politician. For a while he wasn't and really he still isn't. I think (and I may be wrong) but I think that entire thing came from political correctness and him not believeing in it. The fact that he says what's on his mind. He isn't scared to do/say anything. I mean look at his comments about Rosie during the debates and hmmm he still won. He still has many supporters; White, Black, Asian, Hispanic and more. It wasn't about his personality, wealth, jokes or the fact that he is white. They support him for his policies. Ann Coulter is a perfect example. She called Donald Trump a clown a few years ago, now she has a book "In Trump We Trust" and is probably his no. 1 supporter. We're looking at the bigger picture.
     
  16. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,042
    Likes Received:
    12,529
    Congress expands Russia investigation to include Trump's personal attorney


    Lol, which part of his white house ISN'T under investigation now?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 30, 2017, Original Post Date: May 30, 2017 ---
    Except I can generally go and find a tweet of him critizing others about that same stupid crap, or it's another lie for him.

    I don't care about the wall because it's not getting funded, the latest budget FROM Trump has no funding for it, and prohibits other funding from being used on it.


    I care when he does stupid crap that hurts our standing with our allies, when he lies, or his connections to Russia, which everything he has done, or failed to do, is related to one of those things?

    Do I care about him being on a scooter? Only when he criticizes others for a lack of stamina.

    He's over 100 days in, and has almost nothing done. He is factually one of the least productive presidents we've had.

    He is woefully inept, and his administration corrupt. And you guys swallow it up without questioning it in the slightest.
     
    metr0n0me and lfpnub like this.
  17. lfpnub

    lfpnub Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    660
    1. You treated Obama worse. At least we do things he actually said, not fake news saying he's a Satanist Muslim.
    2. HE SAYS A LOT OF REALLY DUMB STUFF. You should scrutinize political leaders because what they say could turn into policy, and policy affects my life.
     
    Deinen likes this.
  18. MeepLord27

    MeepLord27 Popular Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    935
    His personal attorney isn't part of the white house though right?


    Cite that. Were did he say obama is a satanist muslim?
     
    Blue_Marlin likes this.
  19. metr0n0me

    metr0n0me Legendary Meeper

    Offline
    Messages:
    3,158
    Likes Received:
    7,314
    Like Russia?

    nah man that's a fact :D
     
  20. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,042
    Likes Received:
    12,529
    Fair enough, although I'm not sure it negates anything from my comment though.
     
    MeepLord27 likes this.

Share This Page