President Trump

Sean Hannity didn't write that story, Is there any evidence that he did anything other than his job when it comes to the story? From the videoclips I've seen and from his twitter feed (not the best research Ik ) it seems like all he did was investigate the story.

 

I mean, they retracted the fox story, and then Hannity went out and said he's not fox and he isn't retracting anything.

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I generally try to avoid thehill, but they have the audio

Hannity on Seth Rich coverage: ‘I retracted nothing’

 

He made sure to state that it was a big IF, he was investigating the source of the DNC leaks, he didn't say hillary had him killed, and he didn't even say he was the source, but the fact that the moment he starts asking questions he gets massive blowback is telling of the mainstream democrats hostility to questions and wrong think.

 

I'm going to have to warn you, I think you are approaching blue marlin logic.

What this is called is yellow journalism, using baseless assumptions and crude exaggerations in order to hypothetically reach a point to drive a story. Do you realize this story originated with the likes of Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists? This is tantamount to MSNBC running a "What If" story on George Bush in league with Halliburton to build detention camps when he implements executive orders which turn our country into a totalitarian nightmare.

Hannity was spewing senseless, baseless, stories in order to whip their audience up into a frenzy. Both sides are actively putting out propaganda and it's naive to buy into anything but factual information. Clinton isn't the devil incarnate, Trump isn't Hitler 2.0. There are real shenanigans going on in this country currently which will make the failed Nazi Coup in America look like child's play. I'm not saying Trump actively colluded with Putin until the facts support it but it's quite apparent something isn't right with the picture and it's likely due to Russian intelligence activities in this country - which has it's own set of serious consequences. I think most of us are not old enough to remember the Cold War, but we know the world almost ended a few times during it and the current situation happening has a risk of bringing us closer to that point once again. The world as we know it changing and America can quite quickly be looking at the wrong end of the table after it's done. Stop thinking so partisanly because both sides have their good and really bad, most liberals are chill just like most conservatives are chill. The loud obnoxious ones make both sides look bad and you're all too busy bickering amongst eachother to do anything worthwhile to fix any of the issues the country faces today.

Did you know Hannity was all for waterboarding and even said on air he would submit himself to it to prove it's not torture? He never did it, why? Because he is a TV personality and seems to have bought into his own bullcrap a bit too much. This is capitalism and America at work, you say enough stupid crap to piss off enough people and there is consequences, it's literally that simple. There is no morality or ethics coming into play it's simple action and reaction. Why aren't liberals going after Shep Smith and the other decent one? Probably because, while they are conservative, they actually practice real journalism.

 

I haven't seen Sean Hannity's show, but everything I have seen of him is literally just him investigating the story. If I see evidence of him legitimately spouting any of the seth rich stuff as fact I will condemn him with the rest of the leftists.

I didn't know that, but thats a far cry from spreading infowars-esque conspiracy theories.

 

No, it's not. It's the behavior of a shallow man that spouts whatever approved message he has for the day in order to drum up his base. That's all it is, that's all this Seth Rich thing is. This is not journalism it's propaganda and shouldn't be engaged by any side.

You bring me Shep Smith seriously "investigating" this and I'll reconsider my position.

 

nobody is asking you to reconsider your position, he was just looking into wether or not there is any substance to the theory that it was seth rich who leaked the DNC stuff, not russian hacking. I personally don't think theres enough evidence to make a judgement, but if someone is trying to find evidence to support a judgement, thats fine.

 

i would buy ten of these

 

Turns out the anti-islam nut was possible false flagger and confirmed Bernie sanders supporter.

Ian Miles Cheong on Twitter
and just to discredit buzzfeed:
Here's What We Know About The Suspect In The Portland Train Stabbing Attack

 

What relevancy is some guy on twitter? He offers no factual evidence other than an out of context picture.

The fact of the matter is that people are nuts and sometimes do crazy things. To say he was a Bernie supporter seems to be a bit of a misnomer, as how can you support someone when you're actions are the literal antithesis to the beliefs of the person you believe? It's like saying you believe in Jesus but then go and think you need to kill all black people.

Where are you getting this "false flag" thing?

PS: You're twitter guy forgot to add in the tweet the insane guy made about how Bernie Sanders supports should go and kill Clinton, apparently.

 

My bad, he's a reasonably reputable journalist in the circles I run in. Sometimes I forget not everyone has the same media diet as me.

My point in bringing this up is that people are saying that Donald Trump is inspiring violence and hatred, like he is somehow responsible for the actions of someone else.

This wasn't a real point I was trying to make or anything, I realize it makes me sound like a nut. My thought process was that if he's acted like a far right wacko to discredit conservatives before then its possible that this clearly mentally ill person would be violent to discredit conservatives. I probably shouldn't have brought it up though because it was just speculation.

I wasn't trying to discredit Bernie Sanders supporters. I was just trying make the point that bernie sanders has just as much fault in this killing as Donald Trump does, I.E. none.

 

Regardless of whether or not Trump holds any personal responsbility in this, he does belong to a group that has actively used anti-islam sentiment to drive their goals since 2001.

That being said, I support Trump's rhetoric at this point, simply because it gives the courts the context needed to strike down his executive orders which would have no affect and mostly consequence.

 

Off-topic, but I live in Portland and was supposed to be on that train but I took too long in the bathroom and missed it.

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But he's giving a voice to those people who express such views. Hate crimes (however you define them) have gone up since Trump started his campaign. I get that Trump isn't personally responsible for the attacks, but his rhetoric certainly does play a part in giving these people a voice where previously, it was taboo to say a lot of these things.

 

I never understood this argument, if he was giving a voice to them, why do they have way more extreme views than him? He's only "giving a voice" to the people who want his policies right?

 

... hurts my eyes

 

Wow I was wrong all along. Trump did have ties in Russia.

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Holy Shit! Actual proof of Trump Ties in Russia! • r/The_Donald

 

Thats a joke we're not stupid


And reddit is not a source.

Oh wait

 

@PixelPizza boi I know it's a joke, that's why I posted it >.<

@metr0n0me go back to literally any President. Probably more so the Modern day Presidents. When they have rallies the crime rates go up. Look back to 2008, Obama. They did the same thing (what they are doing to Trump is much worse but...) they called for Obama's impeachment, they threatened him, blah blah blah. The difference is the Media is lying and portraying things that are false about Trump which makes the liberal, anti-Trump cry babies have a melt down. (Not trying to be rude but I'm stating facts). If it takes Joe Biden telling people to "shut up and give Donald Trump time" like a month into his Presidency. I mean they were calling for Trumps impeachment back in November of 2016. It's ridiculous. The man has tried to do nothing but good for this country and yes some of his ideas are a bit crazy but if people would OPEN THEIR EYES, Stop name calling, stop shutting people down and look at the picture. They would see.

Just last night I was reading Ann Coulters book. "¡Adios America! 'The lefts plan to turn our country into a third world hell hole'" and my mom walked in and didn't know why I loved Ann Coulter so much? (no one in my house hold really agrees with me and I'm the only one who loves Donald Trump). So I pulled up a YouTube video of "the best of Ann Coulter". My mom instantly got mad calling her a racist, sexist, b**ch. blah blah blah, and when I tried to break down what she was saying and show my mom what she was actually saying. My mom wouldn't listen and walked away.

I then told her "your just like the rest of em, won't actually listen".

If more people would pay attention and see the good Donald Trump is doing and get passed some of his remarks, then his approval rates would go up.

No one voted for Trump because they liked what he said during that 2005 bus conversation. No one voted for Trump because of the remarks he made towards certain people. The people that voted for Trump voted for him because of what was passed that, they looked beyond that and realized. "This guy actually loves his Country". That's why Donald Trump is the President today.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/20...ap-us-trump-russia-probe-the-latest.html?_r=0

Seems like he loves Russia more.

 

@Deinen as I said before. The only thing y'all have against Trump is Russia, that's all you want to talk about. I won't discuss Russia until a REAL source is provided and there is REAL proof that Donald J. Trump and or his White House has had treasonous ties to Russia. Until that is proved and the impeachment process starts, I don't want to talk about it.

I haven't heard one word about his amazing 8 day "World Tour". Hmm, seems like even Saudi Arabia likes him more than they liked Obama. Even after he attempted a "travel ban".