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President Trump

Discussion in 'Debates' started by creepersareokay, Nov 8, 2016.

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How Will Trump Do In Office?

  1. Good, mang

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  1. WhoNeedsJimbo

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    Or he's just not active 24/7

    Seriously I was gone for 3 days and there were like 10 new pages
     
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  2. Deljikho

    Deljikho Lazy Swami

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    House Majority Leader McCarthy: "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump. Swear to God."

    Paul Ryan: "No leaks, alright. We are a family"

     
  3. Deinen

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

    Bit of good advice from Benjamin Franklin - Don't make enemies with people who buy ink by the barrel.

    NY Times / WaPo have been all out assaulting Trump for like two weeks now. I suppose this a good lesson to future Presidents to not attack the media / intelligence community immediately.
     
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  4. MeepLord27

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    The far left media juggernaut is something that should be killed. The media regularly paints the alt right as white supremacists, they regularly take things out of context, and a day doesn't go by where they don't straw man a conservative argument.

    There defense sounds reasonable? Context is everything and lacking full context I think its likely that what was said could've been a joke.
     
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  5. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    I mean, I'd argue that your group got taken over are radicals. Can you point me to alt right people who don't broach into nationalistic xenophobia?
     
  6. MeepLord27

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    Milo Yiannopolous, Ben Shapiro is kinda alt right, same with Steven crowder. Breitbart is usually not white supremacists (not saying there good though). Sargon of Akkad, James Allsup, Rags, Bearing, Blaire white, Chris Ray Gun, literally the entirety of kekistan. The ONLY white supremacist with a alt right following is Richard spencer, and he is a speck. He gets so much media attention because the MSM is like "LOOK WE FOUND ONE" whenever he says something racist. He only has like, 60k followers on his primary platform (twitter).
    Watch this video and tell me they aren't trying to characterize the alt right with what this nut bag says:

    EDIT: I literally just copy pasted a link that went to the video clip, I've never used the poster of the video as a source before and I've never watched him. I think Richard Spencer is scum, and anyone who follows him is scum.
     
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  7. Deinen

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    I think the issue here isn't necessarily the media outlets, but the population that doesn't take things with a grain of salt. Fox News on the right is just as bad as the far left media (Which media outlets would you include as far left?) and Fox news is usually the most watched "news" channel there is.

    But you can thank Roger Ailes for entertainment channels masquerading as "news" as he literally went to court to argue for this. Before that, news media was accountable for the blatantly false things they said.

    Can you outline some legitimate ideology principles the alt-right hold to their heart? I have to admit, I have a hard time taking anything labeled Kek or Pede or Pepe seriously in any intellectual discussion.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 19, 2017, Original Post Date: May 19, 2017 ---
    White House looking at ethics rule to weaken special investigation: sources
     
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  8. MeepLord27

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    All the 24 hour news channels are un-reliable in my opinion. I think it comes with having to produce content 24 hours a day, sometimes there just isn't that much news.

    I would be loathe to speak for the entirety of the group, but judging purely based on the figureheads of the movement and my own values I think the group has libertarian-esque ideals. We think the government should legislate only in protection of our rights.
     
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  9. Deinen

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    Sure, it is mostly all junk. Are they always unreliable? No, even Fox News put a gem or two out there. But yeah, you're right - mostly it is junk.

    So, then, you're a libertarian.
     
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  10. Ranger0203

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    Lol, both the right and the left have gotten pretty radical... Come to the libertarian side, the weather's fine xD.
     
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  11. Blue_Marlin

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    Okay I'm popping in again.
    I'm going to ignore all the Russia bull crap. There is absolutely 0 facts on Trump having treasonous ties to Russia. This is the only thing the left has against Trump and they will use and abuse it until he gets kicked out (which isn't going to happen).

    @Deinen you say Pence knew about Flynn? Then how the hell did Flynn lie to Pence? That was a huge part in him being fired.

    Bill Clinton also fired his FBI director 1 day before Venice Foster died.

    Let me note,
    @metr0n0me - I can and will still defend my President. It's funny that I leave for a few days and come back and see my name still getting thrown around in your attempt to still make yourself seem valid.

    Also, I never left and the mods did not tell me to stop. I got tired of Russia Russia Russia! That's all you guys talk about instead of what he is actually doing.

    @PixelPizza you are right, I don't have the time as of right now to try and reply to everyone. I still come on here and read sometimes, I just don't reply.

    @Deinen you say most of Trumps staff including he himself is "incompetent". I've seen you say it a lot actually. You know who's incompetent?
    1.) Nancy Pelosi
    2.) Hillary Clinton
    3.) Al Franken
    Shall I continue?

    Looks like Trump is doing well on his "world tour" :)

    Trump begins first foreign trip with royal welcome in Saudi Arabia

    God bless Trump and his team while they are away & god bless America <3 cya in a few days!
     
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  13. metr0n0me

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    Okay, but I would argue that Trump's affairs with the Russians is actually very important right now. Obviously we want a president that serves the interests of the USA, and not another country like Russia--and while Trump probably isn't some kind of Russian double-agent, he's definitely being taken advantage of by Russians (see: his meeting with Sergey Kislyak, and Flynn's ties with Russia, etc.) Seriously, this is really bothersome.

    When there's smoke, there's usually fire.

    Look, to use your favorite quote--if Trump were a Democrat president, the right would be furious right now. Imagine the uproar from the right if Obama's campaign was linked to Russia the same way that Trump is now.

    And why has Trump still not said anything about Erdogan's agents beating up US citizens on US soil? That is unacceptable.

    So tell me: what exactly do you want to talk about? What Trump is "doing?" What is he doing, anyways?--defending his campaign from accusations of collaborating with Russia. Please, stop using red-herring to deflect criticism of Trump.
     
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  14. MeepLord27

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    So you admit its purely partisan, anyone calling for impeachment before the investigator is even FINISHED is a moron. The entire reason they got a investigator is so that we could find out if he should be impeached.


    We literally can't if we want to keep operating in the middle east, the european countries would also flip out because they had to stroke turkeys ego to get turkey to not allow the illegal muslim immigrants. (They should've built a wall :p /s)
     
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  15. Deljikho

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    Ah yes, the famous Jan Brady defense: "Marsha Marsha Marsha"
     
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    The White House is going to deny anything negative as much as they can for as long as they can.
     
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  17. metr0n0me

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    I do. I don't think Trump should be impeached until an investigation uncovers enough evidence to justify an impeachment. To do anything other than that would be partisan and undemocratic.

    However, I don't see anything wrong with discussing Trump's ties to Russia before the investigation's over.
     
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    Al Green.
     
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    I see he called for Trump's impeachment and received death threats...but I don't understand how that relates to me, or this particular discussion?
     
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    It relates to the discussion surrounding russia in general. Deinen was going on and on about how we need to vote out our bad representatives, an initiative I agreed with him on. I think calling for impeachment without proper evidence is irresponsible and in this guys particular case he's trying to capitalize on it for political gain. Its a publicity stunt.
     
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