Best Posts in Thread: President Trump

I could tell you

"Nope, I've called him uneducated and stupid many times now, because he keeps saying dumb crap. Sorry, but I'm not going to smile and normalize stupidity, stop saying dumb things and I won't call someone dumb."

"someone needs to call a skunk a skunk."

This is just from this page

I'm not saying that these insults are coming just from you, but it is coming from both sides and it's disgusting, so please stop. Kids come here too and it should be a good environment for everyone.

 

I mean absolutely no disrespect, but I feel your assessment of the situation isn't inherently fair considering the context of the debate itself. You are correct, a debate is a exercise of opposing ideas coming forth in a genuine spirit of discussion. The issue we have here is the debate isn't filled with participants engaging in a genuine spirit of discussion. One notable participate has posted numerous claims that are not verified at best and demonstrably false at worse. The logical assumption is you present him with factual information backed by legitimate sources. Except in this case that person replies with more unfounded and false statements nearly each and every time he is presented with actual factual information.

Nobody forced him to be here, nobody asked for his opinion. He of his own free will and volition began posting unverified and false statements and yet it's frowned upon to call a spade a spade? This worldview of unverified and demonstrably false opinions has just literally elected a sitting U.S President just two months ago, one that allows his resort guests to take photos with the guy who carried the nuclear football. A sitting U.S President who has lied more than I've seen anyone else lie before. A sitting U.S President who has seemed intent in passing bad laws and crippling our domestic programs and policy.

Quite frankly it's our duty as Americans (whoever is one in here) to call out this worldview based on conspiracy and conjecture, it's like an infection that if let fester will begin to rot the body, it must be rooted out. Not a single person was insulted because of their political ideology, religious beliefs, nationality, or anything else other than the literally spouting ignorant (As in lacking facts) arguments in a debate, which is usually founded on rational and verified claims.

In an age where we have literally the entirety of human knowledge in the palm of our hands, it's irresponsible, nay, dangerous to be this uninformed and out of touch in your worldview. It's immediately dangerous to us rational people if we're already seeing a sitting U.S President claim more than once about wanting to change libel laws so he can sue newspapers over negative coverage. It's time this worldview is rooted out and exposed as the uneducated dribble that it truly is.

Nobody here is being bullied but learning that what one believes isn't relevant in the world of facts and reality. Nobody here is insulted kids for being kids, but a grown man is being called on his crap.

 

Good, we should all love our country.

Are you talking about the patriot with five draft deferments from the Vietnam war?

Agree to disagree

I can accept you believe this but I cannot agree with pushing a worldview on other people. One should practice their religion to themselves and those like minded.

I don't think anyone here discounts the notion the majority of terrorism in the recent times originates from radicalized people from the Islam faith. We just don't think it's enough of a threat to warrant a noneffective fear against an entire people.

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This is stemming from your misinformation of the Qu'ran, because it reads very much like the Bible, violence and all.

Agreed

Agreed, which is why we need to think more carefully before putting them in conflicts we ultimately do not need to / cannot win. This way they do not have to deal with a lifetime of mental disorders and the VA nightmare that exists all while costing a tremendous amount of money.

I think we draw the line differently between political correctness and being polite.

We do that in Michigan, it's found only a handful of people taking drugs on assistance, but it's cost a hell of a lot of money. It would have been nice if they put that money into the roads or something. Aside from this, it's illegal to drug screen someone to get assistance without actual suspicion of them using drugs.

Unemployment benefits vary by state and do require you to be looking for work, including putting job resumes on their internal system. I would absolutely agree to requiring citizens putting in community service to earn their benefits relative to their position in life. (Working full time / part time / student)

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Except elected officials owe us their honesty

Taxes pay for services, roads, etc, etc. Why do you think all nation-states have levied a tax in forever?

We overwhelmingly have the strongest military in the history of human species on this planet........We can literally end humanity at anytime we want.

Not everything is about strong and weak, having smarter immigration laws is the first step in border control.

Can you imagine how much economic devastation that would cause to the many, many, many communities they contain illegals currently? Most of them pay taxes via fake SSN's, so they can't receive the benefits and then think about the money that would cease going to the local businesses. A smarter way is setting up a reasonable and achievable way to convert the illegals into citizens, assimilating them into our population and economy so we can better compete with the nations with 1,000,000,000 people and are quickly industrializing.

Except further down you write this:

"Im an idiot because i think anyone who disrespects our flag or police men, fire fighters, veterans etc should be put in prison."

This is you literally calling for the restriction of our freedom of speech.

Hasn't Obama taken your gun away yet? I'm from Michigan, an open carry state, I don't worry much about being disarmed.

They usually are, except I don't want my state's public money going to them.

Then don't get an abortion, stay out of other people's business.

Except:

"Im an idiot because i think anyone who disrespects our flag or police men, fire fighters, veterans etc should be put in prison."

This is you literally calling for a restriction of free speech, to be imprisoned none the less!

Care about my safety, don't try to legislate it.

Couldn't care less what other people do so long as it doesn't affect me negatively.

These are all very conflicting statements and two of them do not respect the Constitution, or freedom of speech.

I encourage you to look at the rate of violent incidents and recidivism between prisons in the USA and Europe. Europe, a much nicer atmosphere prioritizing rehabilitation suffers far less violent incidents inside the prison and far less people coming back into prison due to recidivism. MSNBC's lockup show did a couple episodes of prisons inside Europe, you'd be surprised at the amount of prisons that suffer 0 violent incidents that year.

I suggest reading: Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville

Maybe, but the legal path to the death penalty is far more costly than imprisonment for life not to mention the potential of killing an innocent person. I'd prefer the cheaper path and using that money to better society.

Ok, believe it, but you shouldn't push your beliefs on anyone else. Stay out of their business.

No....I keep calling you an idiot because you're saying stupid things publicly, nothing more, nothing else.

 

Heh, yeah it's funny cause it isn't true.

 

Excuse me, you obnoxious dimwitted boob, I've held full time work since 16 to raise my children. You need to check yourself, considering you're this dumb and still in school. I dropped out in 10th grade and I'm running circles around you here. You're parents should get a refund because you're clearly not learning anything.

Interesting that pointing out his lies is what gets you upset.

President Trump falsely claims US murder rate is ‘highest’ in 47 years - LIE

Donald J. Trump - LIE (The Truth: KUNA : Kuwait denies reports entry visa ban of certain nationalities - Politics - 03/02/2017)

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage,.....

According to Homeland Security, more than 1,200 were denied boarding flights to the US. The state department has said that over 50,000 people were affected.



So what is it @Blue_marlin98 -

Either your President is such a lying sack of crap and you're dumb enough to blindly swallow every bit of it like a good little boy OR you voted for someone who has said so many wrong things he's demonstrably an idiot.

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Here is a good one from Trump's retarded mouthpiece, Sean Spicer

Trump had biggest inaugural crowd ever? Metrics say no

Remember he spent the first week of his Presidency pissing off the intelligence community and arguing about di...err crowd size?

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What about the statement from Trump from Jan 6th 2017

"Activities by foreign governments had "absolutely no effect on the outcome of this election."

Trump's dubious claim of foreign influence on 2016 election


Russia targeted key states with anti-Clinton fake news, Trump-Russia hearings chairman reveals

Report: The FBI is using the explosive Trump-Russia dossier as a 'roadmap' for its investigation

Marco Rubio Confirms His Staffers Were Targeted by Computers in Russia

Senate intel leader: No question Russia tried to influence '16

Intel hearing bombshell: Cyber expert says “Commander-in-Chief used Russian ‘active measures’…against his opponents”

Senate hearing to focus on ‘paid internet trolls,’ other Russia tactics - The Boston Globe

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/29/politics/kushner-meeting-russian-bank/

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017...eeting-with-Russian-ambassador/3991488544567/

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov...ssian-active-measures-and-influence-campaigns

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Donald Trump's 10 biggest falsehoods

God what a fat lazy liar Trump is.

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These cause they are funny:

GOP strategist: Trump's dealmaking mojo 'went over like a fart in a hurricane'

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...s-inauguration-was-some-weird-shit-apparently

 

Don't forget these:

No man can serve two masters: for either he. will hate the one, and love the other; or else. he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Matthew 6:24

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Matthew 19:24

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Eh it's more indirect

He's for the courts not being obligated by law due to religious reasons

He is a Christian

He is against gays

it all kinda gets put together

 

@Blue_marlin98 you had too much alcohol tonight mate.

 

er...Catholics are also followers of Jesus too

 

Interesting fact:

Jesus, the dudeman you worship, had 12 dudemans with him who liked liked him

One was named Peter

Peter founded the Catholic Church

 

As usual, you're wrong. Just look at catholicism and Spain and what they did in South America.

Or more modern?

Gunman Kills 6 at Sikh Temple in Wisconsin

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?pagewanted=all

Affidavit: Man admits church shooting, says liberals should die - CNN.com

2010 Austin suicide attack - Wikipedia

I keep linking these if ya want.

I would definitely accept that the issue of terrorism is vastly complex neither you or me probably really has any grasp on it. I will say Islam is a part of the wave of terrorism we see today, not because of the religion but because the religion is used as a tool for brainwashing from power people to achieve geopolitical aims. (Taking territory / Making money which is what ISIS is doing) Do you really think Al-Badgdhi or w/e his name is believes all this crap? Nope! He's fighting for more money, influence and money and using religion as a vehicle to get others to do his bidding.

You need to stop linking Trump and Obama because those two scenarios are completely different. Obama identifying nations to increase the vetting process is not the same is then identifying the nations for a complete travel halt. It's akin to Obama identifying 7 nations involved in the illegal drug trade so he sanctions them. Trump bombs them, saying "Hey, Obama selected these nations!"

It's not the same, stop trying to put them together.

Not relevant, some dude's opinion, even if he is Muslim, isn't the same as data and facts. Where are the data and facts proving a complete travel halt would be effective and keep us safer?

That lady is an idiot, every single group has idiots. Look at Westboro, aren't they the idiots of Christianity?

If Trump can't fulfill his promises then it's because he's a bad leader who is unable to compromise with a government of parties and opinions. He is the deal maker right? He's not up against anything any other President hasn't been either, and at least he doesn't have almost an entire party accusing him of being born if Kenya.

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@Blue_marlin98 Sean Spicer insists the Trump-Russia case is closed. It definitely isn’t

-- Wasn't it Trump who said we couldn't have a President if she was under FBI investigation?

 

What are you talking about? Do you know what it is like to lose a child? Also in that culture the oldest male is by far the most important. So they lost that most important thing in their life.

It was not because muslims are horrible people. The religion actually promotes peace. They lived in India (now modern day Afghanistan). Due to the religious war, Hindus moved to nowday India and muslims moved to now day Afghanistan. Indians would steal, kill, and force muslims to move north and the muslims did they same to the Indians in their territory. Since my family was neither Hindu or Muslim, they fled back to a country in Africa where there lineage is from.

They lived in the hood... couldn't afford anywhere else.

 

There is only one person here saying nonsense like "being gay is a choice" "being poor is a choice" and it's sad

 

This will be my last post for a bit but I am a male. I set my picture to Nagisa a long time ago as an inside joke.

 

For a couple years I was homeless. Even when we for an apartment we couldn't afford utilities a lot. There were a lot of times when the only meals I got were the school breakfast and lunch. I have health care through the state of West Virginia but it doesn't pay for much. My 6 year old computer was a gift from my grandma before she passed away. For years we didn't have internet. I was only able get on meep when I went to the library or a friend's house. I have one car that is older than me that was left in a family friend's will for my grandpa. He is going to sell it to me when I graduate and get a job. I do have an old TV though. I didn't get my first phone until 2016 at the end of my Junior year that I paid for with a paper route that I had had for a year. That paper route also paid for my class ring. For years all I had was a blow up mattress or cot to sleep on.

Also, good luck getting a decent job without a car or phone these days. Did you know most Walmarts don't even have a job application kiosk anymore? You have to apply online.

But you are right, I really wasn't thaaat poor and it was definitely my choice.

 

I feel like this is contradictory. Wouldn't a judge exercising his religious views to supercede the constitution mean, in your views, that they shouldn't be allowed in America?

 

1- The modern world economy is primarily driven by debt, debt isn't inherently bad.

2- I didn't vote for Clinton

3- Trump won the electoral college, but he lost the popular vote. You're currently a minority trying to rule over a majority, history can show you how well this goes.

 

Nice! This means a judge signed off on a warrant to place a wiretap, which means sufficient evidence of a crime being committed.

 

Well boys! I'd safety say the anti-trump side clearly won this debate.

Would anyone else like to try and defend Comrade Trump? Preferably with facts, though.

But @Blue_marlin98 what did you think of Comrade Trump's campaign manager secretly working for Russian interests?

Bringing shame to his German heritage

 

This is coming from the guy that literally said this:

Okayyyyy