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okay, so now that trump* is the president

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by nhjed, Oct 23, 2016.

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Who would you vote for?

Poll closed Nov 10, 2016.
  1. Hillary Clinton

    5 vote(s)
    18.5%
  2. Donald Trump.

    9 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. Neither

    13 vote(s)
    48.1%
  1. n00bslayer_99

    n00bslayer_99 i like kebab

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  2. Skaros123

    Skaros123 Otaku Wooden Hoe

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    I think trump is also a liar, so it's not like I have much of a choice. Every president so far has released their tax returns. Why won't trump, the billionaire with questionable business tactics and tax history, release them?

    When hillary tried accusing Bernie of something, he released his tax returns and proved nothing out of the ordinary. Why not trump?
     
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  3. Garde7

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    lol true :D but the election could be rigged hillary has the press under her thumb. And I dont agree with limiting the press dumb idea. Hillary is anti guns/ pro murdering babies (abortion)
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 25, 2016, Original Post Date: Oct 25, 2016 ---
    Trump at least owns his mistakes
     
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    Pmx728 Legendary Meeper

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    I don't think Trump has ever apologized in his entire life. Even the "apology" about the video with Billy bush, it looks forced, he doesn't apologize for what he said but apologized to the people that were offended, and uses the video to bash Hillary.

    Also if you haven't studied politics yet, a limit on gun laws and pro choice are two big democratic views. Usually during the primaries, candidates tend to appeal to the more partisan (more extreme) voters (as they are most likely to vote in the primary), then come back to the middle (more moderate) to get the average voter.
     
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    I have BTW. Trump did in a debate (did you watch the debates?) and Trump bashing Hillary and Hillary Bashing Trump thats what ist been.

    Yes now look at Trump in that Light, He isn't as Bad anymore (still bad just not as)
    Look at Hillary in that Light.. Its the stuff she is trying to cover up that makes her bad so it doen't really change much (She is worse than Trump)
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 25, 2016, Original Post Date: Oct 25, 2016 ---
    hahaha this made me die lol lmao Rofl its so true
     
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    Pmx728 Legendary Meeper

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    Trumps views never changed and are still radical.

    - Ban on Muslim immigration
    1. Go's against the 1st amendment
    2. It is insanely rediculous and inspires hate

    - Border Protection
    1. A wall will just cause more debt
    2. Won't solve the issue (If you were going to jump the border and come to America and saw a little wall, I'm pretty sure you not just gonna turn around and go home)
    3. Inspires hate towards latinos

    - Health Care
    1. As someone who wants to work with health care when I grow up, I can agree that ObamaCare is pretty bad, but getting rid of affordable health care will only worsen the problem.
    2. Getting rid of affordable health care would mean that about 20 million people would lose health care. (If you need me to go more in depth I can)

    As someone who watched all three debates, the only effective policy he has proposed is a taxation on imports.
     
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  7. Garde7

    Garde7 Popular Meeper

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    all true, i can't get heath care with the affordable heath care... I dont think it will be a little wall, and How does it inspire hate?... Agree We just need to be more careful not ban muslim immigration .

    You watched all three? awesome so did I, lol they make me angry
     
  8. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    1. A clump of cells is not a human. Abortion can be classified a number of ways, but murdering a human is not one of them. Science already explains this for us.

    2. Our election is not rigged and is highly improbable to be. Voter fraud is also largely a myth. The press is a lot of things, but outright rigging elections is not in their catalog. Press publishes what gains viewers and makes them money, Trump's inability to act like an actual human being is a main reason he has the coverage. Notably the number of newspapers who has endorsed Republicans for their 100+ years are refusing to endorse or outright denounce him can be attributed to his ignorance quality.

    3. Regarding guns, I think perhaps her stance is misrepresented. I disagree with the notion of gunmakers being liable after a lawful sale but there may be merit when she says gunmakers have a type of immunity no other producer of goods has. Overall an armed citizenry is good, but there needs to be real gun control.
     
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    1. disagree, So a baby is a clump of cells, so are you. Science can not prove anything and Scientist can be wrong. If you kill the "clump of cells" you are killing the person that it Grows into. If I had been aborted, then My parents would have murdered me. My brain hasn't completely devolped yet, does that mean im not completely human? And the "clump of cells is human btw"
    2. agree
    3. I really don't think it is, early on she made some statements about guns and police officers that makes me wounder. but i could be wrong
     
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    No, if you were aborted, you never would have existed. One may have merit arguing that abortion would prevent what usually becomes a human being, depending on the birth death rates in whatever country you're comparing. But to say it's murdering a person is factually incorrect. The question of what makes a human being is a question that has been asked since it could be asked, we have not answered it. I would argue, the state of fetus in a legally allowed abortion does not have any unique consciousness, nor anything attributing to a living, independent entity.

    FACT CHECK: Are Gun-Makers 'Totally Free Of Liability For Their Behavior'?

    This does a pretty good job explaining it, as it turns out it was less misrepresented than I thought.
     
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    This will be possibly the only time I will like this post by you.
     
  12. Imperfectly

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    #Bernie

    Bernie Sanders shoulda won.
     
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    feel the bern
     
  14. Garde7

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    lol
     
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    HMMM....NHJED.....

    jokes aside, lying is a common theme in politics. It was never about telling people what they want to hear and actually doing it, merely the former.
     
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    it could have been worse
     
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    This doesn't have anything to do with the first amendment because the government is not prohibiting them from being Muslim and they're not U.S citizens.
     
  18. nhjed

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    you were wrONG ANYWAYS
     
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    well Hillary didn't win mate
     

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