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Best Posts in Thread: Mutes for Chat Offenses, not bans

  1. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Elder

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    No because saying a curse, and saying a racial slur are both "chat offenses" but one is WAY worse than the other.
     
  2. smk

    smk Celebrity Meeper

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    “Maybe a mass unban and never banning for chat offenses (only muting) would couple even better than just a mass unban.” - Me (on an older suggestion thread)

    “Procedure for chat offenses has been changed slightly to something similar to this method.” - Clue

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    Chat offenses should = mutes

    A chat offense that would result in a perm ban (ex. Repeated harassment, repeated racism, etc), should now result in a perm mute.

    The point of a mute is to take them out of chat, and inconvenience them. Party chats are secluded and private and should be fine. Sharing images on discord should be fine.

    Parroting someone’s message into global is not fine.

    But dissuading mutes just because people can communicate outside of meep isn’t really logical.
     
  3. LargeUnit

    LargeUnit Celebrity Meeper

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    because tradition doesn't make something right. if there is a better way to moderate, why shouldn't we want staff to moderate that way?

    first of all, if they're muted you don't have to babysit them. second of all, the purpose of moderation staff is to moderate chat, so don't act like they didn't sign up to babysit people.

    why isn't this premise stated in the rules then?
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 24, 2019, Original Post Date: Jan 24, 2019 ---
    Stop leaving it to value judgments, which are undoubtedly subjective . If one thing is worse than another, then write it in the rules. Otherwise, execute the rules as they are written with respect to precedent.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2019
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  4. smk

    smk Celebrity Meeper

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    I know that moderating chat can become tedious or stressful at times, but staff should always be striving to maintain patience; this is a voluntary job.

    I don’t see the point of harming our playercount when a mute solves the issue.

    Bans being based on judgement calls opens the door way to bias.

    I’ll give an example of something that has happened in the past.

    Player A is being quite tedious in chat. No serious offenses that warrant a perm ban, but small chat offenses such as cursing, inciting spam, and arguing in chat and refusing to stop (harassment or toxicity). They had no ban history.

    I would personally have muted them for a few hours, the offenses were only in chat.

    Another staff member was online and banned them for 5 hours.

    This is not the same punishment, one is much much more harsh than the other. Punishments can be based on an individuals opinion of how long the ban length should be; but there should be a range.

    We shouldn’t see a perm ban for something a mute could easily solve. And we shouldn’t just hop on a banning spree if it’s not needed.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2019
  5. Courtneyyy

    Courtneyyy Admin Princess Staff Member Helper Media Elder

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    Chat offenses shouldn’t be mutes if the content is ridiculous and inappropriate for the server. I don’t understand why people try to change the way staff do their job. It gets so damn annoying to constantly babysit people and you should know that considering you were a staff member. You know there is a process for any offense and how it’s handled but depending on the severity of the issue it’s always different. You can’t generalize “chat offenses” because there is 0 consistency between cases and players.
     
  6. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Elder

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