Best Posts in Thread: Hire good pvpers to clean up kit or turn kitpvp into an official minigame called elites vs hackers

chaos546 · Feb 22, 2015

I have no idea where you are getting your statistics, Empo, but they are either just wrong or grossly over exaggerated.

This is already done. I don't think people should be paid to report hackers, because most people care enough about the server and about having fun in kitpvp that they do it anyways.

Furthermore, why the hell are you talking about two hour bans? I'm sorry, but a hacker has never been banned for anything less than seven days, so I have no idea what you are talking about.

As for 80 or 90 hackers a day, gimme a break. The most I've banned in one day is thirteen, and half of those were player reports from at least a day ago. The most I've personally ever seen banned in one day is 19, if I remember correctly.

The idea that you are saying 60-70 hackers get away with it every day is just silly.

weewoozesty · Feb 22, 2015

I always have Bandicam running to record gameplay. Be it to catch the accidental epic moment. Or to catch people being stupid red handed. Or to prove my self innocent should some ever accuse me of cheating in Halo.

But if there was only some way that I could just spectate the kitpvp. I could easily get good footage on these cheaters.

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Notice how I call them "cheaters".

Thats all they deserve. Theyre not hackers. Theyre just some kid who downloaded something off of google.

Calling them hackers is like calling the guy flipping burgers at Mc Donalds a Master Chef.

Gowlee · Feb 22, 2015

Empoleon_master said: ↑

Kill aura
auto clicker (aka inhumanly fast clicking which is really rampant)
gattling gun bows
range hacking
fly/tp hacking (tping looks as fast as an ender pearl but minus the ender pearl part)
aimbot
and my favorite sign of hacking, anti-KB
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Oh and don't forget when having the exclusive kit, pressing 5 and the right mouse button to drop a pot is macroing according to _Zerathul_

gg

legendcaleb · Feb 22, 2015

Empoleon_master said: ↑

@Gowlee @SillySilver

Let's face it, kitpvp is the Moss Isle's Canteina of meep because "never has there been such a hive of such retched villainy and scum in the universe". Everyday 50+ hackers seem to get on a skype group and ask each other if one of them has been banned from meep yet, and when one has it's the next Big Winner's turn to get onto meep and hack like hell while the staff are busy with modreqs and reporting the first hacker. (this just happened with multiple witnesses) So today it was up to me and 3-4 other exclusive+ to kill the same 3 hackers with kill aura, range hacks, and fly hacking (that was really fun), over and over and over while the staff were too busy to do anything about it. The hacking has gotten to the point where I could definitively just go to the bottom level of kitpvp spawn, look down the hole, set up a recording program and then leave only to come back 8+ hours later and know that I had caught 90+ people fly hacking and then claiming that they couldn't possibly fly because they don't have ult.

I know the staff is busy and I know they have a bajillion modreqs to file every day while there are the same amount of hackers in kitpvp, but this is just stupid. So instead of wasting staff time, just incentivise players grouping up and beating the hell out of hackers in kitpvp, and record the hacking. This really isn't that hard, 10k to every one that made a distinctive effort into killing the hackers and showing that they hacked, as was shown in a video/s. This gives a decently sized incentive to the players that help take down the hackers, yet small enough that it's not detrimental to the eco.

@Deinen *deinen voice* Think about it in a business perspective, people log onto meep, go into kitpvp, then find out that there are 3+ hackers in it at any given time and the staff is simply too busy to record the hackers which only get a 2 hr+ ban, and upon seeing this they believe that the server is simply too over run with hackers to the point where there is absolutely no point in going here again. But banning hackers doesn't get them to donate to us later on.

*my voice* Let me stop you right there, this is the equivalent of you not banning someone for adds as they might use the money they get from new players on their server to buy a new rank for themselves on meep. And in NO way is giving someone a 2+ hr ban for hacking in kitpvp while they're offline (as they got bored of hacking 10 seconds or had to sleep) going to prevent someone from removing any of the following:
Kill aura
auto clicker (aka inhumanly fast clicking which is really rampant)
gattling gun bows
range hacking
fly/tp hacking (tping looks as fast as an ender pearl but minus the ender pearl part)
aimbot
and my favorite sign of hacking, anti-KB

Or instead of trying to remove the hackers via going through tons of videos and banning the idiots (which is very hard to do), we instead turn kitpvp into Hackers vs elites, it's very simple, imagine towny wars (everyone wanted that already) but instead of real towns there are pre made towns that everyone fights in, with two sides. It's very simple, everyone that plays that's elite+ gets the elite kit (as it's the only kit that stands a chance against said hackers), and no other equipment, and everyone that's below that rank gets a random crap citizen kit and they are all automatically given kill aura, fly, a bow that shoots 50+ arrows in .3 seconds and never breaks, and infinite ender pearls by the server.

Now to make things more fair for everyone that's not an elite, they get to spawn right in front of a frowny face made out of wool blocks that says "you're a meanie for hacking, go away" and gives them 5k meebles, before they fly to the elite side of the map. Now the elite side of the map has some distinctive tactical advantages over the hacker side of the map, it includes but is not limited to:
An instant spawning and detonating tnt block that spawns inside every elite player at the push of a button
withers that only attack elites
ghasts that shoot fire balls with power 8 randomly over the entire map
And finally, an entire floor made of sand right above the void that falls at the flick of a miss aimed sword attack.

I respect the staff etc, most of my meep friends are mod+ on here, but for the love of Arceus this stupid amount of hacking has to be dealt with, I don't care if kitpvp reboots every time someone flies just to ban the person, they must get banned! The hackers know they can get away with it because it seems like everyone and their cousin knows that you can get away with hacking in kitpvp on meep, and for an example of this, I have seen an amazingly obvious hacker go from just kill aura to using fly and speed hacks....and they are not a premium. Do you know how they got to be a premium? It's because they used the meebles FROM GETTING AWAY WITH HACKING FOR 6+ MONTHS TO BUY IT. And the problem is is that this keeps happening over and over and over and barely anything is being done about it.
People complain about the amount of players that @SillySilver reports for hacking, but remember this, if I had recording software I would be making 80x the reports every day and I barely go into kitpvp anymore.

I'll admit this did indeed use to be fun, once every hour a hacker would appear in kitpvp with kill aura and I would go in with the elite kit and snipe their behind crapless, until they left out of rage over them trying to use a sword in a bow fight, but now, this is officially out of control and it is just simply stupid to keep this cycle of endless hacking on and on forever, with no way for even a group of 3+elites to stand a chance against just 2 hackers with fly, speed hacks, and kill aura. So please just make this stop!
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Two choices,

-get anticheat and crap up pvp and make it unplayable
-deal with it

Chaase5 · Feb 22, 2015

anyone can macro on this server and get away with it lol.

Cherrykit · Feb 22, 2015

The hackers are annoying but still this would pretty much be encouraging them...

metr0n0me · Feb 22, 2015

SuperVladimir said: ↑

Just get 2 or 3 pvp staff that watch pvp and kitpvp. (If you do this make the pvp staff good).
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We miss Flamedemond2

builderjunkie012 · Feb 22, 2015

weewoozesty said: ↑

I think the problem needs to be more addressed at a fundamental level. "i.e. Kit balancing."
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I personally think the kits are quite balanced. I came onto kit on a friend's account named "shadowtemple" and managed to get a 23 kill streak with the standard human kit. Citizens get a good sword and bad armor for those good with a sword and also a damage pot kit which can kill even an ult if used correctly. It doesn't take a lot of skill it just takes finding the right kit for your play style.

Gowlee · Feb 22, 2015

Perryjay2 said: ↑

This is a lot of writing so I havent actualy read it But by the general vibe I see you wanna get rid of hackers.
The only reason there are soo many is because Meep took away the AntiCheat in KitPvP to make the hit detection better.
So as I said in another post, Its either Good PvP and Hackers, Or bad PvP and no hackers.
Id much raher have the first one.
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Tbh, I see no difference pvp wise. I see a lot more hackers though.
I'd prefer to know that I am able to kill a hacker no matter what. I like to be able to use the elite bow as my hacker killing weapon but with speed hacks and fly hacks it's pretty damn hard.

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