A New /Warp Shop that will Benefit the Economy

All have been buffed.

 

If you can't sell ores to shop, and only players buy ores, a big business should be a priority. Players with lots of money can buy ores from other players and stimulate the economy.

 

That's flawed thinking, theres no incentive to buy ores from other players because of a lack of taxes and the fact that liquidated money is a lot more versatile and easy to use. If you take a look at the richest people on meepcraft, you could easily come to the conclusion that they hoard money and are not interested in "buying ores" because these very same ores decrease in price due to lack of demand and increasing supply.

 

@PseudoGod

Was the richest player on meep until he and inexxer bought ultimate. From the day I've met him to the upcoming server, he has always bought ores. Ores show wealth without a physical bal, they allow you to have amassed any amount of meebles without anyone knowing.

Many other shops including /pwarp mc, /pwarp gmall (until it died), /pwarp shop, /pwarp black have all bought and sold ores. Those are only the pwarps I remember. Rich players always want material items, I did in alpha and bought nearly 40 double chests of gold blocks. Also, many rich players invested money into building town spawns, building shops, which stimulates the economy. ie;

Rich player #1 hires someone to build a town spawn -> builder gets paid 100k for materials in advance -> builder buys materials from a shop -> shop owner buys more materials and resells.

3-4 People benefit from that, depending on which shop the builder buys it from. If that player never had money, no money would move. The economy would be in a stalemate with the players, where no money leaves, no money is transfered, no money is earned. Technically, /warp shop is a big business, as it sold unobtainable items and unlimited of those unobtainable items. Players having a business doesn't harm anyone, as both the player and the shop owner mutually work together to both earn money. It's been that way since I first logged in during 2012, and it will still go on after the server is reinstated.

 

Tb fair Matt and Pseudo were the richest meepers so they know how rich people work

 

Wait, all I'm saying is that the economy should be tailored towards new players more than richer players. Its more important for 15 more people to join the server as regulars than have one person get 5,000,000 meebles and maybe give 1,000,000 of it away to make some town. I'm not saying that rich people should not exist and that they should be shunned upon, thats the exact opposite. There will always be rich people on meep and they're actually very important people who simulate the economy. I'm just saying that focussing on big business screws over smaller ones, such as with /pwarp chestshops. When chestshops exist without a vshop, people will always go to the popular ones such as /pwarp shops and /pwarp shop, leaving many newer players unable to sell items and compete with the recognizability of these shops. Sure, these things simulate the economy, but it leaves a lot of newer people in the dust.

I was the richest person on Meepcraft for a solid year and a half, and for a large portion of it I had triple the balance of the person in second.

 

I don't mean to be rude, but I seriously fail to see how this is disputable. When someone asks in shout: "Where can I buy ___ item?," the response is never going to be "Try /pwarp noobshop." Instead, it's always going to be "/pwarp [insert big shop here]." While it's true that newer players can advertise, it's very difficult to generate enough traffic to even pay back the /pwarp costs.

Plus, another aspect that's being overlooked is that it takes a significant amount of capital to open a shop in the first place. You need to build the shop, obtain a bunch of chests, and sell a *bunch* of items. People pay for convenience--very few people are going to run around to 50 different shops to save 200 meebles.

I learned this the hard way a while back. I set up a pwarp and had the best prices on the server for all the ores, diamonds, and wood. Yet as much as I advertised (I even got access to a supreme alt to have colored chat), I failed to make a profit.

 

Exactly!

 

Also, about the stalls thing. I'm personally indifferent about the idea--it doesn't seem very space-efficient, but I suppose it has its pros as well.

If it's implemented, there should be a renew feature that allows you to renew your rent for like (pulling numbers out of my head), 1.1x the previous day's cost.

Like, say you got a shop in a really nice location, for 1k the first day. You sell 20k worth of items, so you renew it, and pay 1100 the next day. You again make a profit, so you renew again and pay more rent the next day. It might be a good way to take money out of the economy.

 

I was thinking of making a mini-server for the new stalls, it would have a limited, but modest amount of space. Its basically creative but with smaller plot sizes and a system to retrieve goods after a stall expires.

 

I might be going off-track, but we used to have these "hologram ads" that you could rent and you could advertise whatever. Also-

MOJANG: NOPE

 

That's why you get a mall shop. Shop owners in malls have been successful and they could make quite a lot of wealth with lower taxes

 

It's not. Not just on this server but on every single one you will ever play. Experienced players understand the ins and outs of a server's economy much more than the kid who logged in for the first time today 15 minutes ago.

An economy will always benefit old players. If a new player can make money fast, old players can make money twice as fast.

edit: We've all been new players at one point, and we adapted to this server. Dedicated people will thrive on the server, and it will always be that way. In one week of playing gamma, I made 1.5 million meebles (until server files were deleted). If you have the ability to think outside of the box you can make money.

 

/sell [item name] [number of item] [price per unit]
/buy [item name] [number of item] [max price per unit]

I forget the plugin name, but I thought it worked really well. Everything was among players so there was no addition of money to the economy or blocks. Pretty sure meep used to use this, not 100% tho... thoughts?

 

Yeah we still use it.

 

Aight, I haven't been on server in like a year, but what I remember is selling and buying with an instant transaction at a set price to the server. O well

 

Yeah, that got scrapped and the system you described came back.

 

TLR Whats the main focus of getting money into the eco if they shops can't be sold infinitely at /warp shop? New players still need to be able to obtain currency quickly without getting mass amounts where the eco is inflated and everyone and their mom owns a town?

And don't tell me minigames, Meep is a Towny/Eco server, not a hub for minigames.

Sorry if this was already addressed, I didn't want to skim every novel written by OP and others.

 

Sweet, lets keep it