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Recently many older players have been leaving, citing "declining community," among other issues. I suggest that we don't enforce chat rules as much as we currently do. For example, I was told to talking about history (Roman Empire and crucifixion), because it might not be suitable material for younger ages. A similar incident seems to have happened with @Richard FS. Although staff warned him multiple times that he was breaking the rules, and the ban would fall in line with current rules, I see nothing objectionable about discussing history (Disclaimer: I wasn't online, so I don't know how offensive this was being). You might say that Hitler isn't suitable for younger children's ears, but isn't Hitler universally bad? An example of how strict MeepCraft is becoming about chat is the word "nazi," which is censored under the current filter, with the reasoning: "Inappropriate language is not allowed on MeepCraft!" How is the word "Nazi" inappropriate?

I don't support allowing cursing, even on a limited basis--that's something best left for teamspeak. However, chat is becoming incredibly boring these days, with discussions of Cleaves' gender, "JOIN MY TOWN" "selling !@#$!#@" and what-not becoming the norm. The server is becoming quieter and quieter, because there is simply nothing left to talk about.

 

Technically I shouldn't be posting with this account considering my main forums account is banned, but considering this is a discussion about breaking rules It seems fitting.
Metr0, you need staff back. Honestly, the server just needs more people like you in charge, people who actually know how to make people want to join and stay on a server. If we listened to what people like you and Deinen said half the time, the server wouldnt be nearly as dead as it is. Maybe if we actually took advice from sensible people, the server wouldn't have wasted 3000 dollars on a shiny new confusing way-too-big spawn when all people wanted was a simple one like we had a few years ago. But alas, it seems like the most competent people we have on staff are Summrs and ForteMizuki, and he's only a helper. This suggestion gets a +1, and so does the concept behind it. The concept that we need a government of the players, by the players, and for the players. Meep cannot sustain itself by expanding the server to meet the expanding needs of the server. 75% of the server is either broken or useless. Honestly, did we really need to add UHS when infected, hunger games, and parkour, things people come to this server to do, are broken? And even worse, UHS is donors only. Adding donor-only feature to a server that desperatley needs new players isn't helping anything. What we need is something that can get new players hooked on this server, so they keep coming back. To accomplish this, we need a good staff team and a friendly community, which can go hand in hand. Staff, I appreciate all you do. I know you sacrifice your time and voulenteer just because you want to give back to the server (or in Deinens' case spawn in gold blocks). But obviously, something is not right. New players just leave the server, because they feel left out. Staff rarely ever talk to new players other to answer questions. And it's not just staff, many ranked players do the same thing. New players feel ignored, left out, and they leave. The chat is the singular most important part of getting new players to stay. Wether the player likes spleef, or PVP, or towns, they will all come in contact with the chat. The staff and the community in general need to be more friendly to new players, and stop just saying "just do /modreq" when it's a question that could easily be answered by non-staff. It just gives more work to the already busy staff.

-Dat_Coffee, former toxic forums member

P.S. Staff, please accept some tech applications soon so you can actually get things working again

 

This is cringe worthy.

 

Ah, I see. I'm not disputing the semantics of the ban itself; I'm debating the relevance of the server rules. The ban of Richard FS may have been completely legitimate--I'm not asking you to overturn it.

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The ability to have a relatively free discussion about politics, religion, etc. fosters the development of the community and makes new members feel relevant. As of now, shout consists of small talk and inside jokes, with the occasional question asked by a new citizen. Oftentimes, new players will feel as if they don't belong in the server, and are often excluded from general discussion. However, if chatting about larger world issues is legalized, newer players will feel as if their opinion carries relevancy, thereby feeling included in the community. I remember when I first joined the server, I was shocked at the intelligence of the playerbase (shoutout to Skaros123) and marveled at its ability to carry on discussions about world issues. Sadly, I don't feel this is the case any longer.

This inclusion into the community can lead to donations. As players feel welcomed by the community, they're more likely to enjoy the server, and stick around. More importantly, however, it will lead to the rekindling of an underrated aspect of Meep's decline--community.

 

Stop if it comes to that point then. If no one is being hurt or getting "triggered" during a conversation about history what's the problem? At some point, people have to stop being so overly sheltered about history. It's a truth. Sure an 8 year-old doesn't need to know about Hitler and his quest to mass genocide. But guess what? In 3 years, that 8 year-old is most likely going to study a bit about the wars in our human past. In 2 more years? They might have a big project covering either World Wars.
If little kids have to resort to attacking their fellow players because they don't feel like learning or researching then that's on them. Stay dumb. We're all playing Minecraft here anyways.

I used to tutor kids at a summer academy. Having an open mind when it comes to conversing with people *generally* leads to have a more friendly personality. Being stuck in a steel bubble leads to a Joffrey.

 

Please. You constantly run your mouth in chat, what with staff insults, server insults. That's why you were banned. You were so damn salty - and you refuse to admit it!


+1 to this suggestion though.
We don't need to let conversations get out of hand. If we can talk like mature adults I don't see why and conversation about adult topics shouldn't be allowed. No I don't mean sexual content don't even.
When the conversation gets heated,then it either needs to be slowed, stopped, or taken to PM.

 

tbh when people are discussing mature topics like idk taxes people have strong opinions and even though they dont start out attacking one another, staff sort of get afraid they will and try to shut them down early. And I understand this I really do, because the line on where staff is supposed to jump in is always sort of blurred, unlike on the forums where players have more liberties. Technically, it isn't against the rules to discuss these sorts of things, but atleast half the time they turn into personal attacks, which makes staff have to shut the entire conversation down. In order to play it safe, the conversations are generally avoided altogether.

 

To all of you debating Richard FS' ban, get off my thread. As I stated above,

1) I was not online when the ban occured
2) The ban was legitimate, for all I know
3) I'm not "using it as an argument." I'm using the fact that we aren't allowed to talk about Hitler (again, I realize the ban was not for talking about Hitler) as an argument.

This thread is for a suggestion; if you're not here for that then go somewhere else.

 

If the word is accompanied by discrimination of Jewish people, then the mods can warn the perpetrators of the offensive behavior. While MeepCraft isn't necessarily a history lesson, it would be nice to be able to talk about issues beyond MeepCraft--ISIS, politics, etc. Staff members can easily shut down discussions if they get out of hand.

While you're at it, do you think it should be illegal to talk about Einstein in shout? Because according ro your logic, we should "let the professionals teach it."

EDIT: I smell a helper or media app coming