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Best Posts in Thread: Way to get rid of Rankism

  1. StopResetting

    StopResetting Popular Meeper

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    Rankism is nothing but a delusional notion stemming from a hunger for attention.

    This applies to the following:
    • Those stating they deserve/want to be noticed
    • Those stating another party deserves/should be noticed
    • Those jumping on the Meepcraft -the-next-hype-bandwagon

    I have been actively playing on Meepcraft for over 2 years. I have dedicated myself a lot more to this server than most think. In all my experience, I have never seen anything even remotely close to being considered the mythical term "Rankism". Matter of fact, this term was born from a joke on shout. You stated within the poll thread you posted that you had only come back for a week and you'd already supposedly seen so much "Rankism". From what experiences may I ask?

    There are people who ask things out shout, and when they do get an answer they do not notice it. Then they end up whining about it on shout, spamming sometimes until they get lashed out on by other members because of the spam and/or complaining.

    There are people who ask things, and they actually stump the community. No one knows how to answer them, (or the few who'd actually know are too busy to answer) and in general people do not want to look stupid in front of others. So people do not admit to them "I don't know", or "Could you rephrase that maybe?".

    There are also other situations where there isn't anyone online willing to help because they are busy playing the game, they are busy talking to friends online, they don't feel like answering, they assume someone else will answer the question, or they don't feel obligated to answer (which they aren't). Or even, it is at a time when shout is getting flooded with conversations so the question or statement ends up getting overlooked.

    As an Ultimate member, I have been ignored as well. I've asked things on shout, said things on shout, and have gotten no response. Hell, sometimes when I answer someone's question I get no thanks or the person ignores/or doesn't notice me and keeps asking until someone else has to. I have had every donator rank during the time I've played here. I have gone through moments with each of those ranks where I have gotten ignored or overlooked. When there are consistent messages in shout, you have to realize some of the messages are also going to get washed out by the flood of chatter.

    You cannot honestly expect to get a flood of messages like certain people do when they speak. Some of these people have a reputation earned through dedication, and friends.

    Now if this whole "Rankism" thing were actuality, would you please explain this to me?:
    How does it make any sense to suggest the implementation of a new rank, when its sole purpose is to differentiate between the "more experienced" Citizens and the "noobs"? Would that not be "rankist" in itself to suggest sticking the "noob" label on these Citizens?

    Don't get me wrong here... I'm not concerned this suggestion would actually be taken seriously - but I am sick of hearing "RANKISM OMG!" It is honestly the most ignorant and delusional thing I've had the misfortune to witness brewing up from this server.
     
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  2. dragon8877

    dragon8877 Celebrity Meeper

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    Some not all
    I posted a thread in under the discussion column talking about if Rankism has gotton worse, and from the poll I posted, it apparently has. The main problem that I observed wasn't "They're citizens, they don't even want to donate, ect, ect." But rather that Donors and the meepcraft community can't tell the difference between citizens who have been on for over a year and the one's who just come on the server and leave the next day.
    That why I propose a new type of ranking for citizens. The longer you stay on meepcraft, the higher your citizen rank goes. Maybe after a year of you staying on meepcraft, you go from Citizen to Senior Citizen. They won't receive any benefits, they'll just have their rank changed, this way the Meepcraft community can tell the difference between them and a newbie.
    Now, I'm sure that you're all wondering, how does this tie in win money as well as improve the meepcraft community? New players are the foundation that all minecraft servers are built upon. A server must keep having a continuous stream of new players entering the server, or the server will become stale. With the way is currently is with the Donators ignoring all the citizens in chat, it's driving away not only the new players, but the old players as well (not everyone wants to donate and not everyone is willing to give up their hard earned meebles to pay for a rank up) Driving away both new and old non-ranked players = less money for the server = less time being put into the server by staff and admins = ranked players leaving = even more new and old players leaving.
     
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  3. StopResetting

    StopResetting Popular Meeper

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    You're basing your reasoning on assumptions dragon8877.

    You're continuing to assume only the older Citizens are being ignored.
    You assume everyone and every instance is occurring within the same circumstances.

    You continue to assume that other people's perspectives are the issue when:
    You're assuming the newer Citizens are stupid, disloyal and incompetent. AKA You're generalizing them in negative light.

    nathnana2002, you too are making assumptions about the circumstances in which these instances are taking place.

    Klitcher, that's not worth the time.
     
  4. nath.banana

    nath.banana Popular Meeper

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    Please don't hate for this response, but citizens are less likely to stay. People ignore them because they think helping someone who is likely to leave in a week is pointless. I have befriended citizens and then they disappear whether they get banned because they don't care about the server anymore or just have too much to do in real life. Any ranked person is more likely to stay on Meepcraft for a longer period of time than the average citizen. (I know there are citizens that do stay for awhile) Because of this, people tend to talk to and help ranked people in hopes of getting their attention, or just to help them because they know they're a well known person or whatever. Some people also feel it useless to help citizens because they question something that sounds like something so obvious to know. From this, the ranked people don't bother answering a question they believe a stupid one. Also, next time you guys see a citizen ask a question in shout, you should just instantly give a response whether the question sounds too easy for them not know, or something you might not even know. This will help keep new players on Meepcraft. We were all citizens at one point and we all needed help. We either chose the path to figure things out on our own or ask people everything we didn't know, and either of those are totally fine. Anywho, that's all I can think of at the time. Thanks if you read this... :D
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2015