Best Posts in Thread: Ban Transparency

Recently bans have changed where normal players can't see the ban. I personally don't like this because it keeps the community in the dark, and also reduces accountability for staff members when banning. I agree that there are some positives that come with removing it, but I believe that the community should be able to know who was banned and why they were banned whether it be through ban messages in chat, or a log of banned players on the forums.

EDIT: Karistar and Metro have pointed out another good argument. Having bans in chat helps new players know what is legal and illegal considering most don't take the time to go on the forums and read all the rules.

 

This was changed to decrease the spam in chat.
Instead of actively telling players about bans, it may be worthwhile creating a passive alternative, where they can check the recent bans if they want to.

 

All the things that cause spam that come directly from MeepCraft and you choose kicks and bans? LOL.

I do like your proposed compromise, because it means kicks and bans would still be public, and thus there would still be some accountability for staff (and some deterrent for players, because they don't want be embarrassed by a kick or ban, which is a big factor in why some people avoid bad behavior). But I'm concerned by the point metr0n0me raised, which I also brought up several months ago, before I was staff (and when I argued very strongly against this):

If kicks and bans aren't going to be immediately public, then the rules and their location MUST be crystal clear, and MeepCraft MUST encourage new players to read them as enthusiastically as it encourages them to donate for a rank or vote for the server.

Anything less, and we're punishing players for not knowing rules that we never told them about, and that's unacceptable.

 

Honestly really unnecessary, it is useful to see bans to make sure a player got banned or not. Right now no one is sure that a player got banned, then 2-3 people post reports, etc.

 

Or "Apply for staff on the forums" which is totally not needed as a global announcement.
I agree with kari,metro, hab by the way.

 

I like seeing the bans and kicks. It's showing the community what not to do. Also I feel enjoyment when I see someone get kicked/banned for something. Only me?

 

mr worldwide

 

I really think this is worth the spam. If you want to increase server revenue, you want to get people familiar enough with the server that they think it's worth it to donate. If someone (any decent person) were to log onto Meepcraft and see someone say the N-word in shout, and then not see a ban, they'll get repulsed and leave. I've done this on many servers, without remorse.

 

As I said in game, introducing new players is priority #1.

 

Public bans are useful for setting examples out of others. For example, if someone says ads in chat, and gets banned, the nuisance of ads have gone away. However, if a player were to see this happen, and no ban was issued (he thinks) this gives the impression that ads are ok. While ads are a pretty unambiguous ban, things that differ from server to server (language, griefing, hacking, etc.) are useful to show players what happens to them should they yell obscenities in shout. I think this is especially applicable because of the influx of new players coming into the server.