they don't apply to everything and everyone, or encompass the different types of threads.
~ @qazini
In my personal opinion, they do. My point was not to disagree or be negative about everything, or to spout out whenever you have a negative thought. My point was that genuine disagreement should never be looked down upon as a bad thing.
Meep has people of all ages, and some don't appreciate negativity.
~ @qazini
A very large percentage of Meep does not like negativity (more so than almost every other place I've seen), but it has less to do with age than you might think. In fact, many times, it is much more prominent in the older members. Also, you should meet my little sister, she always told the genuine truth of what was on her mind, even before she could spell.
Me personally, I never want to be told "I love you" by someone who isn't willing to say otherwise. I never want to be told "good job" by someone who wouldn't tell me it was not a good job. If I wanted that, I would build a positivity robot that always tells me how special and great I am. When we are not genuine, that is what our reactions become: robotic, fake, and even worthless.
There is a difference between disagreement and being hurtful/negative. There are already enough trolls and people in general who don't know how to formulate their disagreement with respect
~ @qazini
I know that you realize that I do not condone trolling (under most circumstances), but I hope you realize that the only thing that is hurt by troll post is the troll's reputation. The troll comes across as a moron and everyone knows it. If trolls actually hurt your feelings, I do not know if you belong on the internet... What I elaborated on was genuine disagreement though, so this is somewhat irrelevant. Trolls will always be trolls whether people accept disagreement or not.
adding a dislike button would encourage even more.
~ @qazini
Now, I was kidding about the dislike button, and I am not actually suggesting we make one, but it is very silly to assume that adding one would cause a sudden rise in trolls. You read a post and you either like it or you don't, we all do, it is natural. It's not like members will begin trolling after its implementation. In fact, I'd hypothesize the opposite; people would have the opportunity to dislike instead of voicing their (sometimes toxic) opinion in the form of a thread.
adding your opinion on a thread that isn't focused on debate doesn't help anyone
~ @qazini
Now this is genuinely concerning to me... You are telling me that opinion is a bad thing unless a thread is focused on debate? If the thread is not focused on debate (which happens to be like 98% of threads) then we are not supposed to give any opinion? We are just supposed to all agree and have the same opinions (or at least pretend to)? I know you that you know that this is wrong, I'll just assume (hope) that isn't what you meant.
What is the point of disliking something like this? I don't really see how that would improve anyone's - including your own - day.
~ @qazini
Well, for everyone on this forum (I'd hope), liking or disliking a thread plays an insignificant part of our lives. That is what I am arguing: insignificance as opposed to significance. Specifically, the insignificance of the "badness" of disagreement. If someone does not like your post, it should not affect your life at all and it should not hurt your feelings. After all, you probably posted something that had disagreeable content in it, meaning that you would expect mixed opinions. To me, that is a very small price to pay for genuine, meaningful conversation. Now whether or not you find genuine conversation worth it is another story. Maybe you like robots spitting fake positivity everywhere. Maybe you even lust for that attention they give.
A single dislike won't improve my day, and that is not what I argued. I am saying that the acceptance of dislike creates a much more genuine environment that many people enjoy (and if they don't they might want to put some thought into human interaction).
As it relates to this thread, take a minute to realize what it is. Some guy gets drunk, exaggerates it for attention, then people see it and like it and encourage it for some reason (pretty unanimously, I might add). Now I am not going to get into a rant about this right now, as this post is already too long, but there are so many things that are just plain stupid about that. If my objective disagreement is discounted for something like this, then I really don't see what anyone can disagree about... {Drunk + attention seeking online = good job}
I also like how the community is old enough to accept and relate to someone getting drunk, but they are not old enough to accept negative opinions. Great job.
All that being said, Qazini, I am in no way hostile towards you, and I really appreciate you taking the time create a full response. When I make a "deep post," it usually kills the thread, and I was genuinely excited to see your response.
