Changes.

PainCakexx1997

This was a rant thread and knowing of how decisions are made on this server I know things will never change.
~ @Summers

That i disagree with, the fact is that the way we do things is in constant change. We try to adapt and we take criticism seriously. You as a ex-staff member/experienced community member should know that listening to the community is the main reason that meepcraft is still here today. But we do pick suggestions using logic. If we do a change there is allways a reason behind it or a long term reason behind it.

Remember it is allways easy sitting on the sideline criticising the decisions that are being made for you, but it is allways hard coming up with good suggestions yourself.

Summers

That i disagree with, the fact is that the way we do things is in constant change. We try to adapt and we take criticism seriously. You as a ex-staff member/experienced community member should know that listening to the community is the main reason that meepcraft is still here today. But we do pick suggestions using logic. If we do a change there is allways a reason behind it or a long term reason behind it.
Remember it is allways easy sitting on the sideline criticising the decisions that are being made for you, but it is allways hard coming up with good suggestions yourself.
~ @PainCakexx1997

I bet you didn't even know about the /warp shop changes. How does it feel that as a supermod, and probably one of the few staff that know anything about the eco, you arnt trusted with the information.

PainCakexx1997

I bet you didn't even know about the /warp shop changes. How does it feel that as a supermod, and probably one of the few staff that know anything about the eco, you arnt trusted with the information.
~ @Summers

I will not go in to how we came to the decision when this was implemented, but i did see the change before it was implemented. And you can rant all you want but even do you might not think so, we do have a plan for this stuff ;)

Deljikho

I bet you didn't even know about the /warp shop changes. How does it feel that as a supermod, and probably one of the few staff that know anything about the eco, you arnt trusted with the information.
~ @Summers

We were told about the changes, and given a very detailed list of what will be removed/added. However I personally voiced my opinion on some items that I disagreed with only to be ignored. I agree 100% that large changes should at the very least go through the Mod team, they are a great group that really needs more responsibility and giving them access to critique large changes to the server seems like a definite benefit. Giving the community access to critique changes seems like a double edged sword, and I'm not too sure Helpers always have the best input; But definitely at least through Mods, even if it's after Admin and Smod review.

@Jwarian as Summrs said: The suggestion to add the command /grass, which allowed dirt to be turned into grass, was denied because it would undervalue the grass market. Yet these spawners are implemented that undervalue dozens more markets. I think he is trying to understand why the logic seems to have diverged, what exactly are the priorities, and wants to ensure that big decisions are well rounded and thought out. I may be wrong though lol.

Also still +1 for /grass

Jwarian

We were told about the changes, and given a very detailed list of what will be removed/added. However I personally voiced my opinion on some items that I disagreed with only to be ignored. I agree 100% that large changes should at the very least go through the Mod team, they are a great group that really needs more responsibility and giving them access to critique large changes to the server seems like a definite benefit. Giving the community access to critique changes seems like a double edged sword, and I'm not too sure Helpers always have the best input; But definitely at least through Mods, even if it's after Admin and Smod review.
@Jwarian as Summrs said: The suggestion to add the command /grass, which allowed dirt to be turned into grass, was denied because it would undervalue the grass market. Yet these spawners are implemented that undervalue dozens more markets. I think he is trying to understand why the logic seems to have diverged, what exactly are the priorities, and wants to ensure that big decisions are well rounded and thought out. I may be wrong though lol.
~ @Deljikho

Your word that so much better than the original post, makes me understand the deeper principle, to which I agree with mostly, but not the concept that "undervaluing markets directly reduces average player happiness". If anything, I think its the opposite.

I also feel like fundamentally this particular eco argument is boiling down to the same as socialism vs capitalism, to which there is no "right" answer. *slides down slope*

_MacintoshWave_

We should all post suggestions one perks for ranks in on big forum!

Summers

I would like to add to this that there was no "plan" that paincake was talking about and was only made up to defend staff when he was staff.
@highstaff @Fuzzlr please start to consider Eco before all changes thanks have a nice day.

That i disagree with, the fact is that the way we do things is in constant change. We try to adapt and we take criticism seriously. You as a ex-staff member/experienced community member should know that listening to the community is the main reason that meepcraft is still here today. But we do pick suggestions using logic. If we do a change there is allways a reason behind it or a long term reason behind it.
Remember it is allways easy sitting on the sideline criticising the decisions that are being made for you, but it is allways hard coming up with good suggestions yourself.
~ @PainCakexx1997

never changed

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