Mar 26, 2014: MeepShop Major Update

funkyrainbows

No, this does not represent a real-world economy. -1 The Vshop is what made Meep special.
~ @63854

Well
#1 It represents what the vshop did/does because when people sold lots, like diamonds, the price lowered, and when people bought lots, like cake where there were no big-time sellers, the price got higher.
#2 this is a public plugin on bukkit I don't understand how it is 'special'
I can still understand how you can't like it though.

Looks sweet, hopefully its implemented carefully to avoid any exploits being made from this
~ @Alien_Venom

Yes, because when you buy, it goes up ...

EDIT: as they sell it it will go down, so this is irrelevant.

Alien_Venom

Yes, because when you buy, it goes up ...
~ @funkyrainbows

I was referring to the initial implementation of the shop and what the starting prices will be set at.

funkyrainbows

I was referring to the initial implementation of the shop and what the starting prices will be set at.
~ @Alien_Venom

Yes, that as well.

Orangefanta1028

This sounds really interesting :)

PuppyChuppy

This is by far the WORST update to meepcraft fuzzlr has EVER thought of. This is insane and I can tell you this, Meepcraft will experience less player activity per week.

As I see it you're always trying to get players onto meep, But if you remove a heart of the attraction, What's left? It's like selling a gold mine for 1000000 million, but without any gold! This is even worse than removing jobs!

Vshop is there to help you when you need it, to bring help to those newbies that need cheap stuff and not stock prices like other servers have. There's a reason I play meep, Vshop, The items and because I have a rank. Vshop is a giant part of meepcraft. You cannot leave a living body to live without a heart. That's impossible.

For example, You're stuck in wild, In a hole, You need 2 bricks to stack up or whatever. You can buy 2 stone for 1 meebles and get on with your life... Instead we have to buy 2 stone for whatever price you sell it at, And now from the looks of Meepshops, your prices are over the extremes. Diamonds for 20k? wow. This will be the most effective disaster meep has ever seen. You can still cancel the posts and warnings. Fuzzlr, you have a chance here...

Oh and another point, for those people that have worked for weeks gathering 100k stonebricks and other items and have put it on vshop, How are they supposed to bring those items into chests with /cancel without crashing the server? Are you kidding me...? You have no idea..

-1000 Worst Idea Ever Spoken Of

funkyrainbows

For example, You're stuck in wild, In a hole, You need 2 bricks to stack up or whatever. You can buy 2 stone for 1 meebles and get on with your life... Instead we have to buy 2 stone for whatever price you sell it at, And now from the looks of Meepshops, your prices are over the extremes. Diamonds for 20k? wow. This will be the most effective disaster meep has ever seen. You can still cancel the posts and warnings. fuzzlr, you have a chance here...
~ @PuppyChuppy

So you're saying that the price of stone will be high on this new shop, how do you know?

Empoleon_master

So you're saying that the price of stone will be high on this new shop, how do you know?
~ @funkyrainbows

To be fair, he does have a point with canceling 100k of an item.

hardegat

"If you don’t like something change it, if you can’t change it, change the way you think about it."

Lets give this a chance first before condemning the server to DOOM!

Empoleon_master

"If you don’t like something change it, if you can’t change it, change the way you think about it."
Lets give this a chance first before condemning the server to DOOM!
~ @hardegat

I don't like how it will be hard to make my megafarm town self sustaining, via killing the admin shop, BUT, I do have to say *COUGH COUGH CURRENT SPAWN COUGH COUGH*

funkyrainbows

To be fair, he does have a point with canceling 100k of an item.
~ @Empoleon_master

Yes. That would be difficult.

I don't like how it will be hard to make my megafarm town self sustaining, via killing the admin shop, BUT, I do have to say *COUGH COUGH CURRENT SPAWN COUGH COUGH*
~ @Empoleon_master

Yes, but instant sell on vshop or whatever the new thing is called.

diegoromangloria

I wonder now: Is this going to make my god villagers useless? I just got them..

funkyrainbows

I wonder now: Is this going to make my god villagers useless? I just got them..
~ @diegoromangloria

Well, the emerald price will drop, but emeralds can be changed into enchanted books and stuff.

diegoromangloria

Well, the emerald price will drop, but emeralds can be changed into enchanted books and stuff.
~ @funkyrainbows

Okay.. Still means I can't sell emeralds for a good price, though. Bye-bye, oppurtunities

funkyrainbows

Okay.. Still means I can't sell emeralds for a good price, though. Bye-bye, oppurtunities
~ @diegoromangloria

Well I just thought that emeralds won't drop that much, because if they drop lots, people will buy them to make books and other things that villagers can make. So it's not useless, and many public things have villagers that have these trades I believe.

hardegat

This is the first update that I would consider a true game changer. A make or break update. It will either balance out everything as expected or basically reduce everything to nothing.

I hope this doesn't backfire and that measures are in place to prevent exploitation, especially the first couple of days after implementation.

I think the Vshop was self-regulating in the fact that everybody didn't get insta cash for everything and that kept things in check. By the time a runaway effect is detected with the new system it might be too late to save the economy and it will collapse which in turns equates to a reset... dun dun duuuuun.

Remember, the same exploiters of the admin shop are actively lurking and contemplating new ways to cash in quick. The new system will not be exempt from this and I can think of a few ways of exploitation but since we don’t know how it will function I cannot say for certain. I do think that they probably wouldn’t implement it without a failsafe though.

Empoleon_master

I don't get what he is saying so we are deleting admin shop and v-shop? Or wiping server?

He's wiping the vshop of items on the 15th, and removing the admin shop and the vshop at the same time.

Empoleon_master

So no more shops? And everything there gone!

No, THE VSHOP WILL BE REMOVED, have the itsms in it wiped, and the admin shop will be wiped from existance as well. Which brings up an interesting question, can we sell items from the admin shop after it's wiped from meep?

funkyrainbows

No, THE VSHOP WILL BE REMOVED, have the itsms in it wiped, and the admin shop will be wiped from existance as well. Which brings up an interesting question, can we sell items from the admin shop after it's wiped from meep?
~ @Empoleon_master

Well no, because they are no longer there.

Empoleon_master

Well no, because they are no longer there.
~ @funkyrainbows

I meant buy items from the admin shop before it's gone, then sell the items once it's gone?

RuSiaN_PeDoBeaRAppeal

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