Accepted What the meep

IGN: Crusher_11
Banned: 9/9/14
Reason: Lure
Staff: bobjoncreeper
Length: perm

Why you should unban: Cokeballs asked me to advertise his casino. So, I started advertising it. I was in wild at the time; just trying to help him out. Then, I warp there. Perryjay, cokeballs, and I were all there in our god gear. So, we all agree to have a brawl there. We started shouting "come to pwarp win for pvp brawl." Then, ginger told me to say pvp is enabled. So, I shouted it again saying "come to pwarp win for brawl (pvp enabled)." Etc. I don't know how I lured anyone. Anyone I fought knew we were having fights. We fought there for an hour; all of us were shouting about it. Bobjon was there watching us for about a half hour. Sssoul was there fighting with us for about a half hour. Perryjay was there for like a half hour.

Bottom line. I lured no one. Anyone that came knew it was all pvp. Plus, why am I the only one banned for this!? Coke/perry/me were all shouting about it. Sssoul was there watching most of the time. Even bass flow came and said we were fine.

@Cokeballs3
@Splisho999
@Perryjay2
@SSSoulblade
@Ranger_621
@GingerManOWNS
@xxObsidianEdgexx
Should all be able to vouch for this.

Bobjon was there for like 30 minutes, wanting to watch. Why couldn't he have corrected me or talked to me if I was in the wrong? The pvp fights literally went on for an hour plus. No one could have come and said to stop?

Coke and I were originally advertising pwarp win for the casino. Later on, we agreed to have pvp fights. The only people there at the time were coke, perry, bobjon (I think), and I. Coke told everyone he was toggling pvp. Once pvp was on, we were advertising pwarp win as pvp enabled fights.

I apologize if I inconvenienced anyone. I'm really confused as to my ban reasoning. I thought we were pvping in good fun. No one complained. In total, 3 staff members (including bobjon) came (and none had a problem with it). You can check my shout logs; I was indeed saying pvp was enabled. If anyone had a problem, I will personally refund them.

Thanks,
Crush

PS. sorry for editing this so many times

 

It was later than when I left, you betrayed 3 wild folk I believe. You tpa'd and killed them, thats the GIST from what I saw. higher up or BobJon will confirm it.

 

Who and were?

 

I'm not sure, wait for BobJon to clarify it.

 

Sounds good brother

 

I saw, no one lured, Eevn SS advertised. BobJon was there, with no problem!

 

The ban I was called to investigate was not the one you stated above.
Tornado_Ef5 and Jorgen93R were in the Wild where you asked to accompany them.
Not to bring anything or kill them (which you promised not to do).
You betrayed them which is a form of Luring/scamming. And this is your 7th offense.

 

I tp-ed to Jorgen, and agreed to team with him. His tornado buddy attacked me along the lines of "he didn't trust me." I killed tornado after he attacked me (with his bow in his tree fort). I did nothing to Jorgen, and had no intention to. Upfront, he never told me his tornado friend was even there.

2. Deceiving Another Player
Any attempt to deceive another player by promising a service or any amount of money and failing to follow through with the deal made (Scamming), sending teleport requests to kill/entrap someone. This includes accepting a teleport request with intentions to kill the player, (Luring), or doing anything to take advantage of another player against their will violates this rule. (including dice scams etc.)

MeepCraft does not tolerate selling or buying anything related to MeepCraft in exchange for real currency or irl items. The only exception to this rule is with donation related items, such as ranks.If scammed, MeepCraft and its staff hold no liability and is not required to give a refund.

http://meepcraft.com/threads/pvp-rules.14284/

I do not believe I have broken any of Meep's rules involving Pvp or the wilderness.

PS. I can re-appeal if it's needed. I originally thought that I was banned for having a pvp brawl. I didn't think I violated any rules with the Jorgen. Sorry for the wrong reason in my main appeal here.

 

http://imgur.com/a/9ejn9
This HE search shows the burning of the fort(although legal) it shows you were there and were causing harm. The other picture shows another HE search done in the same general area looking for specifically item-pickups. I had asked Jorgen, Tornado, and orange what they had lost, and the things found on that item-pickup search matched some of the things they had said.
Me and Jorgen had spoken together and he told me you not only killed Tornado and orange, but killed him also.

 

I lit his trees/fort on fire. Never did I light him on fire. I flew many blocks away from him. I did not light him directly on fire at all. And as far as orange/tornado goes, I did not agree to team with them. They harmed me first and got what they were entitled to.

 

Sorry for posting, but this is something necessary for and team-related ban.

You need proof of the two people agreeing to team, or there is no betrayal, because no agreement was made!!!!
If no agreement was made, then killing is legal!

Edit: And if there IS proof of this, post it. As a helper you should have it.

 

Plus, I did not directly kill him. I didn't even know he died. I lit his trees/fort on fire. I was many blocks away from him. If he ran in it, then that is his fault if anything.

 

Wait was this in the wild or towny? If wild, then isn't anything legal. And monkeyhead brings up the defying part to the ban.

When I was staff we had to unban some people because of this controversial idea of teaming.

You do need proof of agreeing, I got scammed while staff and etc.
Nothing was able to be done because I didn't take pics of agreeing upon what we had said.

 

I tp-ed to him, which I guess means I teamed. I don't care if I was team with him or not. I DID NOT light him on fire. If he ran into fire, that I initially placed blocks away from him, then that is his doing. That's like making a pool of water, someone jumps in, and drowns. Yes, I placed the water, but didn't kill the person. (Sorry, that's the best comparison I could think of).

 

If this was in the wild this is completely legal more or less to add the above screenshot WARNING OF PVP. As for the teaming that rule was removed to my knowledge. (Unless they pulled a "We can ban a player if we think necessary crap)

 

http://imgur.com/a/Dix9W "i wanted to team up with someone cool"
He clearly "teamed" with Jorgen.

Nobody had said you lit him on fire. You said that yourself

As for this. You "teamed" with Jorgen, who was already teamed with orange and tornado so you knew they were there and would be a part of your team.

 

I said I teamed with Jorgen. I'm not denying that. He never once told me A. Other people were there or B. That I had to team with them

Yes, I killed tornado, who attacked me first. I never agreed to team with him.

I did not kill Jorgen, who I WAS TEAMED with.

 

Hey Crusher
The problem that I am having is this:
-In the screenshots, you stated that you would bring nothing with you. ( http://imgur.com/kBRRF1d )
-You pulled items out of your /chest to kill them.
-You lied and PROMISED him that you had not killed Tornado when indeed you say here that you had. You also picked up the items that were dropped after the death and nearly immediately issued the /sellhand command.
-It appears that your goal was to make money from this considering the amount of times you issued the /money command.
-You have killed this same person before..
-Shall we pull out your history of luring.

All of this word vomit tells me that you:Ask to tpa to him in hopes that he accepts without an agreement, he then messages you asking why you sent the request, you say you want to team with him in the wild and agree to bring nothing with you and not harm them, you indeed show up and kill them, pick up their items and quickly sell them, then burn down their fort. All while agreeing that you would not harm them.

..........

 

He saw when tornado attack me. He saw me kill tornado. I initially did take my armor/sword from my /chest when tornado started shooting me. I also really didn't remember having any previous encounters with tornado, as to why I denied that.

All in all. I don't see what Meep rule I broke. I did not kill jorgen. Tornado was never my team.

And, you can check my /money log. I check my money extremely often. But, I have many ways of making money. Not making 20 meebles of noobs? I literally will go to grinders and take people's rotten flesh to sell when they drop it.

I am the first to admit about my ban history; I know what I've done. If you want to have this case, make or break, on that sole fact. I understand.

Where did I agree not to harm tornado? Where did jorgen say tornado was there? Where did I say I agree tornado is team? I did not kill who I tp-ed to.

I can answer any further questions.

Also, if this is going to be denied, I promised jmelara all of my money goes to the town we were building together (plus I owe him a lot of money anyways for our enchanted boom/mall partnership). I also owned monkeyhead 1 mil meebles. Please carry out my debt if this is denied, thanks.

 

You asked to team with a person who was already part of a "team". By teaming with this person, you also accept his team to be your team. This is betrayal.