Minimum Wages

I have actually been saying that, and still doesn't care, thanks for trying to back me up for posting it before about it.

Problem with that, is with a very busy work/life balance, sometimes banks can be dead quiet or so busy you're waiting for 2 hours.

EBT? You mean like those cards to pay for groceries right? Apart from remote parts of Australia, no one in cities (except for the hundreds who are homeless who actually have it) actually use/have any of those cards. We have them, but in my 18 months of working in my suburb supermarket, I've only seen it happen twice. That's all.

Do you ever consider why the homeless is in that position to begin with? Was it a drug addiction, gambling, drinking? Don't think it would be a really good idea to do that, instead they need to get help with rehab first before giving them any type of money (You could give them money with this EBT thing, which is actually the safest way).

Okay then, explain to the tread how you can survive on the America's minimum wage ($7.25/hr) working 40 hours a week with an allowance of $60/week from the government for example. Explain in detail how you can survive on that then.

That sums up what I've been trying to say to Marlin.

Same here Marshy (in Australia), less pay till you hit age 21.

 

Funny story actually, you can be denied a lot of government assistance if you have cable and/or a phone. That was a predicament my family ran into when my dad lost his job. They said that if we can pay for a phone (mind you this was one Nokia brick) we make too much for their assistance. That was a pretty nasty winter too but I digress.
The bike thing is a really good idea though. Especially if you have a young one who needs a doctor or someone with a disability. Too bad buying a bike still costs money and if you live in a bad area, it can be stolen.
For the internet: At my local county library, you had to have a library card to even access the Internet. To get a library card, you had to have a valid address for them to ship it to and pay a sign up fee of $5. They did give the option to pay $10 for 10 minutes of computer use though. I guess that's just too bad for people who are homeless and/or can't afford to use the library Internet. Oh well, those lazy degenerates shouldn't have chosen to be so darn poor.

 

Dang, what the hell. I'm really glad I live in a place where library cards are free and don't need an address.

 

They set it up so that people wouldn't rack up a lot of money in late fees and then just open a new account. After like $20 or something it gets added to your city taxes. I understand why they did it but it sucks for the people who don't abuse the system and can't afford it.

 

Library's often have limits on the amount of computer use a single person can have. Usually 1-3 hours or so. Sometimes that's not enough for an application, or it would be substandard to people owning computers and time.

 

Yes using caps lock and typing lies over and over clearly makes you correct.

You seriously live in a fantasy world dude.

 

I repeat. You do NOT need a smartphone.

excuse.

That is Australia, not America. We like to give lazy people free stuff.

All of these sound like a personal problem and not Americas problem.

The minimum wage is higher then that and I said to raise it to $10 an hour. Are you saying y'all can't explain why you can't live on that amount?

Or y'all just can't think of any reason why you can't?

Should have sold your tv?

I believe Libraries should all be free. Or maybe Volunteer to use it for free?

3 hours to fill out a job application?

My fantasy world is better then yours.

 

If only we had thought of that! Oh wait we did. Long before we went for government assistance. We kept one old tv and got an antenna so we could get the news and weather. Maybe we should have sold the phone too though? That way no possible employers, the school, or the doctor could get ahold of us.

 

Not that isn't what I'm saying. Im saying that you shouldn't have these "luxuries" if you want government assistance.

 

Which luxuries? The one phone we had for emergencies? The one old tv with an antenna that we bought when my dad had a job so we could still have information about things from the outside world? The old beat up car to get us to the doctor, work, or school? Maybe it was the ramen we survived off of for years? Or maybe it was the cot I got to sleep on because at least it was a place to sleep? Or do you mean the doctor bills my mom got because of her multiple sclerosis? Or could it be my therapy and depression meds? I'm going to need you to be a little more specific.

 

What government assistance were you denied?

 

I agree with that, you just keep repeating it. We get it.

"We give lazy people free stuff?" Dude, those cards are only meant for food, to feed their families, not to get these so called "Luxury items" you keep mentioning. Try struggling to get food and lead to death by hunger in the country and say "oh, there were just too lazy". Not true.

Ohhhh my god, we get it.

On top of the job, shopping, banking, possibly studying and travel time. That would not work at all, ever (And don't you dare say that they are lazy!).

Marlin, you are basically my (almost) 50 year old aunty, she never listens or pays attention to anything, as well as ignorant.

People just said that you would still be under the poverty line. $10.25 and up is required.

Personal or not, it still accounts for a problem to people, including America's people, which is a problem.

 

The three major ones hat I can remember off the top of my head were housing assistance, help with utilities, and school fees.
We did get food stamps for a short time though and that afforded us the ramen so I guess I should be grateful for that nourishment. We did qualify for Medicaid too but Medicaid doesn't pay for much. Most of our prescriptions and doctor bills were paid out of pocket.

 

Also I'd like to add that in many cities housing assistance can take up to two or three years to materialize, which is not much good when you're about to be homeless.

 

No some of you don't.

Thats why half of them are buying steak and lobster tail?

Can you not?

If they can't afford a library card then maybe they should volunteer at the library.

No what is ignorant is that fact that some of you believe smart phones and wifi are necessities. On top of the fact that no one can give me a break town on why you can't live on $10 an hour.

Okay so move the minimum wage to $10.25? not 15. I also like the idea of people under 18 having a lower minimum wage.

You not having a smart phone is not Americas problem.

you didn't lose your house so I'm assuming you made enough to pay the rent/mortgage.

Don't use the dishwasher, hang dry your clothes. You can use the rest.

Im not sure about your situation but I couldn't imagine this being denied. Unless you were trying to go to a private school? In that case try a free public school? also that would have been under Obamas administration because under Trumps administration you wouldn't be denied entrance into a private school due to lack of funding.

Thank Obamacare.

 

We did lose our house. We held out for as long as possible but we didn't have gas and the electric and water were constantly getting shut off.

We didn't have a dishwasher and we did laundry as little as possible. There were a lot of times I would wear the same stuff over and over again before washing.

Nope, it was a public school. After a while they brought us down to reduced lunch and halved our school fees but that was only because my dad had a job as a sub bus driver.

ObamaCare actually helped us out a lot. We were on Medicaid long before the ACA was put into effect. After it was put into effect, my medical fees went down a lot but we still had to pay for things out of pocket.

 

I do want to say I am sorry you had to go through this situation. Can I ask what public school fees you had to pay (outside of lunch, which I find a hard time believing they wouldn't give you free/reduced lunch if you were in that rough of a situation) anyway, what school fees did you pay in a public school?

 

I can't live on my own with $12 an hour not because of inability to just pay off bills, but also because I have my dog, the fact that I don't want to live off of 60 cent ramen as my only source of food, and my medical bills and drugs I have to pay for because oh dear GOD that is expensive.

And this is with a decent office job, which can quite easily be considered a career where I'm at and I'm also given good resources to move onto an additional/different career.
The minimum does not need to be $15 but cmon, at least give adults the ability to support themselves, especially when they HAVE a good job
It should not be this damn difficult for adults to move out on their own. I don't even have college loan bills because I don't want to go to college, mostly because it's too expensive and I would not be able to move out until I was like 26. (Edit: Still probably won't be able to move out for several years from now, turning 18 in 2 months)
it's stupid.

I don't know a whole lot about economy and stuff and I'm again not saying that $15 is reasonable, but don't you freaking dare say that people aren't trying, because people are trying.
They just have a crappy situation.

 

According to experts its more efficient to use a dishwasher. And down here we almost always hang dry clothes, because it gets so hot in summer it dry's in under the hour.

Smart phones, smart phones and smart phones. I'm going to call this out, those who keep repeating themselves don't have anything else to think about (often the case), so each time you say smart phones, lazy or America's Problem (and anything you've been repeating), I'm just going to keep linking you to this one sentence (with changing smart phones with the thing you said).

Well, some states need to be higher than that though. Because prices can differ between states and can put them off balance. And yes, it is a good idea to pay less for those under 18/21 but have a similar guideline to minimum wage pay (for example, at 16 years in Australia you must at least getting paid 60% of adult pay of $17.70. So $10.62/hour minimum)

Half of them? First off, no one in Australia prefers lobsters in a meal, we don't like it. Steak, there is more to buy than Steak, there is fruit, vegetables, dairy products. I don't see what you mean by buying "half" but it which ever way you mean it, its false.

 

Personal problem, Not Americas problem.

Again, this is a "luxury" America shouldn't have to give into Munnkee and everyone else who can't afford to live the life of the Jones' because they "don't want to eat Ramen noodles". You think @Erebus45 wanted to eat Ramen noodles? nope, but he did because he had to.

You can't expect the minimum wage to be moved up because of "personal luxuries". and yes I can say a lot of the people who are on government assistance and work crappy jobs are lazy. Not all but many.

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read my entire post

Im talking about America.