Minimum Wages

Doesn't just have to do with work load but type of work. We can live without a Janiter but we can't live without a teacher. In a school system, who is going to be the 1st one fired? Probably a janiter. The principal would probably be fired before a teacher (not really but a teacher is very important).

 

But you can't survive on $10 an hour these days.

 

How can't you? oh wait I know why you can't, you have to have a television, internet, smart phone, and all these other fancy things that you don't wanna get rid of.

 

Um, this doesn't actually answer the question I posted; you have to pick one, so I'm going to assume the reason you replied is that you believe in the $15 minimum wage.

Um?

I appreciate your input... but it doesn't have a lot to do with what I said.

Ah, so you're saying that if an employer doesn't want to pay the higher wage, they should leave for elsewhere? Because that's exactly what happened, and now people that were making $10/hr are making $0/hr.

I have worked in a minimum wage job, and I'll be honest, it sucked. The work environment was great, the people were great, but you just don't feel like you're being compensated for your time fairly. 2 reasons for this:
1) You're spoiled, and I don't meant this in a bad way, and used to being supported by your parents so you don't know the true value of things that you take for granted, like a cell phone plan and cable TV (very high).
2) You can't afford 'basic' things (luxuries) like TV, a huge cell plan, a new phone/laptop, a vehicle, eating out, etc.

In reality, you're being payed MORE than the market value of your labor. If you want to earn more money, you need to make your labor more valuable. I know it's harsh, but either you have to 1) get a degree is something useful 2) attend a trade school, or 3) slog your way through the misery of low-paying jobs until you've gained enough experience to be worth something. Generally you have to combine either of the first two with the third anyway, and it sucks but life ain't fair.

 

Right, but you don't know, because you've never worked and pay bills. It's like me trying to give rock climbing advice when I barely climb ladders.

 

If I "don't know" which I do, can you please explain to me why someone can't live off of $15 an hour. Don't leave a link, I want you to explain it. Give me a layout. Then ill debunk it.

 

They can absolutely live off $15 an hour, it'll be tight at times but overall do-able. You cannot live off current minimum wage, which is 7.25 an hour or frankly off $10, especially considering most low-wage jobs are usually retail or service which famously avoids hiring full-time employees.

 

This is not explaining to me how someone can't live off of $10 an hour. Explain to me using detail, why someone can't live off of $10 an hour. please.

 

Sure, which area do you live? We'll use your location as an example but first we need to find housing prices/rental prices for this area.

 

I don't want to say my exact location but ill say I live in Florida. We can use your location if you would like, maybe make it easier?

 

You can, but it's really, really difficult and not all that much fun. You can basically afford to split an apartment, get food, electricity, water, and public transportation/bike.

 

Let me add that minimum wage jobs are not meant to be careers. There is no such thing as a minimum wage career. Its a minimum wage job! Jobs and careers are different.

 

Income/Month
Raw: $2433
After Taxes: $1824.75
Outflow/month (splitting with somebody except for health insurance):
Apartment: $365
Water: $25
Electricity: $45
Health Insurance: $224


One Time Costs
Bike: $20-$300

Total: $2433-$365-$25-$45-$224-$600=$1170

After you take care of the barest of necessities ( Water, Electricity, Shelter, Transportation, health insurance) you have $1100/month to spend on food, and whatever else you want.

Anyway, like I said it would suck to live off of $10/hr, but it can be done.
Also tell me if (that) I missed stuff, cuz I've never lived on my own.

Edit: After taxes

 

Remove about 25% from your raw to account for taxes.

 

So if you work at $10/hour for 38 hours a week, you will get $1,520 a month ($250 in debt, which you can get the governments help which may or may not be approved) with 25% tax will get you to $1,140 making a total of about $630 in debt per month.

Just clarifying, that it doesn't have to go straight from $7.25/hour to $15/hour. I was referring to where the pay should aim, whether it means going up a dollar a year until it reaches $15 or slower, just a higher pay.

Marlin, minimum wage jobs can in fact lead to careers you know? As in (for example) retail workers; going from check-out workers to supervisor to manager.

Just linking it with others who "don't take thought" into what they say.

Yes, I did go for that ($15).

Okay I'm asking because I got curious; either where exactly do you live or what does your town/city specialize in?

Yea, nah. At best on 10 hours a week of work at $13.16/hour (Including time and a half on Sunday & w/o Public Holiday pay) I will get paid $7,869.70 from my last birthday to next birthday. Because teenagers in Australia are paid less than adults, under Fair Work Australia.

(Just adding this in) Depending on the state in Australia, we can go as low of age as 12 years and 9 months to start a job(In Western Australia).

 

@Daniel Thompson Tge minute you go from cashier --> department manager ----> store manager. You are no longer working a minimum wage job. You shouldn't be making a career out of a fast food window. Just taking orders.

 

Then what's all this business that a minimum wage job isn't a career then?!?! A minimum wage job can be a career, its just the start of it.

 

How many Mc. Donald's workers go to be a manager at the restraunt? You can't move up, if there is a manager at your location you probably won't be a manager until they quit, unless you find another location. Still as a manager you won't make that good of money. So even though you can move up in that job, it's not really a "career".

 

This is your misconception.

When you are working a McJob to just survive, a career is the farthest thing from your mind, you can't look far ahead enough to plan a career out, for the most part, you are simply just too busy trying to get your most immediate needs.

 

You should always be planning for the future. However, since you can't tell me why someone can't survive on $10 an hour then I'll assume they can.