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Helper Application from VKL_ReWinDzz

Discussion in 'Denied' started by VKL_ReWinDzz, Dec 18, 2016.

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  1. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    This is not the place to argue, either keep your comments to yourselves or take it to PM please, I'm gonna start giving out warning points if you can't all behave.
    :]
     
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  2. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

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    I wouldn't say "entitled" to everyones friendship but if someone wants to be friends with everyone I would think that's a good thing? boy times have changed if that's a bad thing. You also mention he was a joke, and this may get me in trouble but so are you, just saying. anyways, VKL, just as Cluelessklutz said, we can all change, goodluck my friend and don't let the negatives get you down.
     
  3. PhoenixPuppy

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    **Poof**
    **PhoenixPuppy appears from the ashes to post on this application**


    +1, I love you VKL. As Cactoos said, what harm can he do? You've been around for awhile (even if most of the time has been with a ban or on an alt account) and you know about the server. Especially when it comes to ban appeals.

    @Staff you should just make him your ban appeal liaison.



    Anyways, I shall return to post on VKLS ban appeal Version:92
    **Poof**
     
  4. OneBreadSlice

    OneBreadSlice Celebrity Meeper

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    +1, Frank's next goal is to get 92 rule-breakers banned.

    Honestly, he's had enough experience with the wrongs. Maybe he can do good for the server as well?
     
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  5. Courtneyyy

    Courtneyyy Admin Princess Staff Member Helper Media Elder

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    Some of you are REALLY coming out of the woodwork to comment on this about someone you don't even know anymore. The past is the past and half of you don't even play anymore it's ridiculous. Also wow didn't know being friends with me means you're sucking up kinda hurts a bit.

    Anyways I like you frank you're a good kid and you really want this and want to do well. You're an exceptional friend and we talk a lot but I'm not going to be biased here I'll get my head chopped off. You do have a bit to work on but I don't doubt your ability to do well at staff with your knowledge of the server. If you really put your mind to it you'll do fine. You can sometimes be a pain in the rear end and you cuss a lot but don't we all. But you're so chill and laid back it's nice bro nice to have someone around meep like that. I'm a +1 cause I know how you are NOW since I talk to you and play meep um now.

    PS thanks for being a chill friend bro promise I won't backstab ya ;) LOL
     
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  6. shains

    shains never stop fighting

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    just to clarify my position, yes i agree people can change, but a banhistory that spans over 3 years is indicative of his inability to change his behavior.
     
  7. PseudoGod

    PseudoGod Celebrity Meeper

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    The issue is not that VKL is a bad friend, but that he wouldn't fit the role of a staff member. Put your potential biases aside and assess if he'd be ready for the staff position. I take into account that he is commonly insulting people, still gets banned as of recent for bug abuse, and etc.

    I like VKL to an extent, but to me he's not ready. -1.
     
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  8. LadyCassandra

    LadyCassandra Rebel Angel Warrior | Sweet Baby Child

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    Let me start off by saying this is the funniest thread I've ever seen due to how divided everyone is, just like the election.

    And everyone else giving a +1 - my friends, what is going on?

    No. You cannot compare your app's length to anyone else's whose app was accepted. This is about what you can bring to the table, not who can bring more.

    What?

    Mmhm. Also noticed you only responded to those people who -1'ed you.

    If anything you should've addressed your ban history, because if you didn't it looks like you are trying to hide that you had 69 bans.

    Seriously?

    What is this, coming from an 18-year-old?

    Overall thoughts - As much as I like you as a person in the few encounters that I've had with you, I cannot trust you to be staff. You have the longest ban history of anyone on Meep and it isn't like all the bans were from over a year ago. There were some from this year too. You're known as some ban master who knows you can be unbanned because it will only be some time before staff unban you. It's actually painful to see that staff are still willing to keep you unbanned after so long. To add, your app was short. Very painfully short. Had staff not liked you as much as they like you know they would've laughed their heads off and denied your app because of how often you were banned and then trying to get staff.
    ~

    Untrue.

    The past sets a standard for how people will act in the future - "History repeats itself."

    We all learn something new every day. 'Hurts a bit'? Grow up, you're an admin on a towny server, not an immature whiny kid.

    k.

    Hah.


    This sums up my thoughts pretty well, and I hope staff keep this in mind.

    -Peace-
     
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  9. VKL_ReWinDzz

    VKL_ReWinDzz Celebrity Meeper

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    What's your name? :)

    and sorry I'm 18 but I don't need to impress people over the internet with my perfect spelling. It's simply because it's quicker and everyone knows what it means.

    lol! thanks for the feedback!!!!! really appreciate it randy

    EDIT: OH HI LADYCASS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
     
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  10. Klitch

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    Keep in mind that the +1's are for interview. My vote has swayed tremendously from application to interview on many occasions, and this situation will not stray from that possibility due to VKL being a friend to many.
     
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  11. LadyCassandra

    LadyCassandra Rebel Angel Warrior | Sweet Baby Child

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    Emphasis on my and not the team's. I couldn't care less about your vote.
    2016-12-18_21.13.57.png
    Taken today.
     
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  12. VKL_ReWinDzz

    VKL_ReWinDzz Celebrity Meeper

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    ur right, but only because you had to make an alt to make that comment lol & im not scared of a screenshot from another server xd
     
  13. LadyCassandra

    LadyCassandra Rebel Angel Warrior | Sweet Baby Child

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    I didn't make an alt for the reason that you would think, and I prefer it to be left that way.

    I also don't care that you're not scared of a screenshot from another server. I care more that if you're trying to get staff, you treat everyone on any server respectfully. How you act elsewhere will eventually reflect on how you act here. I'm not offended that you cursed me out, but I'm concerned that you would do that to anyone else who disapproves of you trying to get staff. One reason many people were denied was because of their lack of ability to take criticism, and you show that very clearly. I don't want to see you get staff if you continue to act this way.
     
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  14. 7acespade

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    To tell you the truth Deljikho, this response makes perfect sense and I'd like to formally concede my argument that the past doesn't mean anything. Although I agree with you on almost every point you make, I don't understand some points of criticisms you have against VKL. I'm not trying to invalidate them, I just want you to expand on them.

    I hate, and absolutely hate, the phrase "You need to be mature to become a staff member". I'm in firm denial to this. Time after time again, Meepcraft's best staff members, such as Deinen and Rosenow, have been absolutely great without getting out of their way to become mature. Being mature makes you boring. I'd argue that personalities such as VKL are one of the best qualities for becoming a staff member, maybe to a bit less of an extreme. I think staff members who don't attempt to be mature are the only ones with character and liveliness, and the only ones that aren't reduced to some mindless hallway monitor when they get the position as staff.

    As of the nudes point. Honestly, I don't know who gave VKL the nudes, but regardless, I think you don't have a right to insult him about them. Just to clarify, I don't know if the person who gave him nudes allowed him to share it with other people, but what I do know for sure is that it should have been a private altercation that Meepcraft staff shouldn't have hard about. The blame should be placed just as much on the giver of the picture than VKL, too, this shouldn't be a one sided street where VKL did all the wrong. Its almost like if I used the point that you cheated on a math test and said you shouldn't get helper because of it, two different environments that shouldn't really be mixed. You do have a right to lose respect for him, though.

    As of the point that he doesn't help at all. I popped on meep for 15 minutes last night and VKL was helping at every opportunity, I don't log in much but for the 15 minutes I was in game he said nothing suggestive or inappropriate and was very helpful.


    I have a prediction that VKL is joining staff in the hopes that he'll have a lot of fun with it. When he realizes how tedious staff is, like I did so myself, I think he'll either break a rule to get demoted or resigned. But I say give him the chance. What do we have to lose?

    +.5
     
  15. VKL_ReWinDzz

    VKL_ReWinDzz Celebrity Meeper

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    alright well since this seems to be a really popular topic i'll clear this up :)

    yes I sent the picture to like 10 people & whoever they sent it to is not on me :)
    the picture was sent directly to me from the person & i'm not gonna deny that, but this happened literally 12 months ago so blah blah irrelevant blah blah respect schmect
     
  16. Deljikho

    Deljikho Lazy Swami

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    Yes so mature. My apologies for using the way you harassed a little girl on Meep to judge your character. Its quite apparent you've definitely learned a vaued lesson from that mistake. You're clearly ready for this position.

    I never said he had to be mature for the position. What I did say was that he needs to work on his weaknesses before getting accepted, not after. His post says "I think this would be fixed if I got Helper" and I'm trying to understand how he magically expects that to happen. Which now I realize he didn't even make a valid response to that question, or any of my questions, he just says "yup cool story bro".

    I'm using this point against VKL for two reasons. 1) It's a solid display of his character. In at least two instances in this thread we have examples of him being trusted with something sensitive and he has betrayed the people that trusted him. Would staff be able to trust him not to leak info? 2) The person that sent them to VKL isn't applying for staff, VKL is. Why would I make a rant about her when she's not even on the server anymore? That is why he's singled out. He shared the images on Klutch's general TS chat, and harassed the girl in game about the ordeal which is why staff HAD to get involved.

    It's good that somebody took the time to address my concerns, too bad it wasn't the applicant :/ My two response limit is up so I can't really add anything else. I'm still a very strong -1.

    Edit: To anyone asking what does the team have to lose by adding VKL, the answer is Integrity.
     
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  17. VKL_ReWinDzz

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    MIA is on the server but that doesnt matter & yup i learned my lesson thx for seeing that.

    also i dont leak staff chat bc that's important :p

    im not addressing your rant bc I have no reason to when it's just how you feel about me I don't think any of the major points you listed were false to an extent :)
     
  18. n00bslayer_99

    n00bslayer_99 i like kebab

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    @CluelessKlutz You say you're only looking at the past 2-3 months, and ignoring his bans, what you are forgetting is that he was unbanned 1 MONTH AGO.

    I can't believe that the staff are willing to look past the stuff he has done and is doing right now. Had any other applicant given responses like
    and many more, they would have been instantly denied. But because the staff like vkl so much, they're willing to look past that and give him staff. Like I said previously, by staff recruiting this guy, they are simply asking for trouble.

    To everyone saying "The past is the past" he is still doing it. Shall I remind you a sixth time he was unbanned from bug abusing only a month ago.
    In my 2 months as staff I lost count of how many times I had to look into cases where he killed people in his town and at his casino. Technically legal, but completely useless and unnecessary, and certainly not something I'd want a staff member to do. (See: Banning people from his casino simply because he doesn't like them).
    When I first made a -1 response on this application he brought up my ban history and started throwing light insults! This guy is not staff material. And the fact the staff are blind to that in their bias is ridiculous.

    You know something is wrong when the two people who also have a history of severe toxicness (see: myself and @PseudoGod ) and have turned themselves around are -1'ing this guy. If anyone is open to second chances it is us. But this is not a second chance. This is a 70th chance.

    This guy is a troublemaker where ever he goes. It's a joke that he's unbanned. If he becomes staff, the whole server becomes a joke.



    And vkl, before you give one of the usual replies you have been giving on this thread (something like "lol ok xd thanks for the feedback I will consider it yup yup" which is almost trolling in itself), let me say that I am not biased against you. I think you're pretty chill in game. But you are not staff material on this server, and you most likely never will be. Being a good player for a month is certainly not enough to change my opinion, try closer to a year.

    My response limit is also up, so this will be my last response, but I am still a major -1
     
  19. 2leah2

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    So I guess, when Madison told you private stuff it wasn't important to you since you shared it with some of your other friends. When people trust you with something, you shouldn't break their trust and you definitely broke her trust when you decided to tell what she said, to some other people. How in the heavens is the staff team supposed to trust you with insider information when you can't keep your mouth shut about something your own friend told you. That's just messed up.

    Edit: that is let alone enough reason for you to not be staff.
     
  20. VKL_ReWinDzz

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    ight ur right im not staff material but this game is boring and i need a damn hobby and being staff is eZ working hours but ur right I dont EVER change :) You became staff so the server's loong past the joke stage mate.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 19, 2016, Original Post Date: Dec 19, 2016 ---
    aye youre right it wasn't important nice context clues 2leah2
     
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