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Denied Banned: Seriously? Server Hate For Criticizing The Server-theonemcd

Discussion in 'Ban and Mute Appeals Archive' started by theonemcd, Jul 30, 2014.

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  1. theonemcd

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    IGN (In-Game Name): theonemcd
    When you were banned: Today (Wed at 7:39 pm pacific time).
    Reason: Server hate and inappropriate language
    Ban Length: 7 days
    Staff Member: Reggles
    Why we should consider your appeal: This ban is completely and utterly ridiculous. I said in global that this server was heading towards Nazi Germany level censorship because someone who said 'shemale' and '*****' got banned for 'sex ref'. So a body part and a gender are now considered 'sex ref'. If I say 'arm' is that also sex ref? Is '*****' a bad word? Are we so insecure about our own bodies that a part of our bodies is now deemed as inappropriate to even mention. Apparently 'nazi' is also an inappropriate term. Something in history that we all have to accept, learn about, and discuss is now inappropriate too? If any of you have read 1984 by George Orwell, then you too might be able to see the parallels between the novel and the server. Criticism is a vital part of any body, server or government, to improve. If every criticism is deemed as 'server hate', then the server will never improve. Hate is such a strong word to be branded on a criticism. If this ban holds, then I don't want to play on a server that controls and censors its players like this, and I will encourage others to reconsider as well.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 30, 2014, Original Post Date: Jul 30, 2014 ---
    Ok, so we get punished for referring to our own genders because they are technically, and in the very literal sense, sex references? Hopefully you are incorrect Jusquan. Yes people take Nazi Germany seriously as it was one of the worst events in human history, but does that mean the term 'Nazi' should be censored? No. Students learn about it in school for a reason; learning about history helps prevent repeating mistakes. EDIT: Jusquan deleted his post...
     
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  2. iiTzJDL

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    Sorry for posting here.

    I find it hilarious if you want to be unbanned for something that IS inappropriate and want to drive people away. People like you make me sick. You're constantly, and I mean CONSTANTLY rude to people in /g. I have evidence of you harassing people by saying they have autism 4 times. And yes, CERTAIN body parts that are involved in sexual activity are deemed inappropriate and is always a bannable offense. You're wondering why? We have little kids on this and we are also a family-friendly server. Do you really think sexual references and talking about certain parts of WW II is allowed here? I still find it hilarious that you want to drive people away from here, which can be considered as more server hate. You need to read the damn rules.
    Again, sorry for posting here. Please do not give me warning point.

    http://imgur.com/a/QHrEI Oh look, evidence that you have harassed people by saying they have autism.
     
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  3. theonemcd

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    Thanks for the personal attack buddy and anecdotal evidence, really relevant in this appeal. The autism ordeals have nothing to do with this specific ban, but I do apologize for those jokes. Talking about WW2 should never be banned anywhere, but that is irrelevant as I wasn't even discussing WW2, just comparing Meep's censorship to Nazi Germany's. Yeah certain body parts are involved in sexual activity, like fingers and tongues and others, but certain body parts are also involved in everyday activities like going to the bathroom. Hands are involved in murders, do you want hands, tongues, and arms also to be banned from discussion? I get that saying the private parts can be a little tacky or in bad taste, but a ban should not be administered for that, rather a polite request to stop would be better.
     
  4. smk

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    Sorry for posting here, but, everything iiTzJDL said is 100% correct. If it wasn't enough i have proof of you personally harassing me that i do not wish to bother to upload. Not to mention the constant times people you agravate report you. You are nothing but a nuisance. -1
     
  5. theonemcd

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    Smkorpi that has nothing to do with this ban, at all. And if by harassment you mean correcting your grammar, then please do post your evidence.
     
  6. Qwikin

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    No, you would not get banned for saying "arm" because an arm, in and of itself, is not of sexual nature. The aforementioned body part is directly involved in the process of sexual reproduction, and is therefore sexual in nature, whether shemale was sexual in nature is a different call that I can't make myself, but the other part alone is enough to warrant a ban. You weren't banned for saying Nazi, although I'm sure that had a play in it, considering the horrific things that occured by the Nazi regime, more that you were banned for accusing the server of heading down a path of near total censorship, which in itself is highly critical, and therefore deemed server hate. All in all, your ban is just, you don't deserve to be on the server, and you should be able to find a hobby for the next 7 days instead of criticizing minecraft servers.
     
  7. theonemcd

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    So criticism equals server hate Qwikin? And the mod said I was actually banned for saying Nazi. In his eyes, that is inappropriate language. Is saying the server is heading towards total censorship the same as saying "I hate this server and its players'? Because that is what you are claiming. Anyways it wasn't I who said shemale or the body part, it was two different players. I was simply annoyed that they were punished.
     
  8. smk

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    You are right its not about the ban at all. It's about the fact that you don't deserve to be on the server when nearly everyone you meet hates your or knows what you do isn't right. I'm sorry for speaking my mind, but there is more then just I who think you deserve the ban. As for my grammar: y u even care oth3r th3n fo
     
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    Yeah I understood that last part after I re-read, it's 11 pm, I'm tired, I skip over things, my bad. And server hate is not that black and white, I can be hateful towards a person, for example, by criticizing the way they act, or they ways they behave, much like you did the server, I don't have to directly state that I hate something to be hateful towards it.
     
  10. theonemcd

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    The ban has nothing to do with other players, so their opinion is not relevant smkorpi.

    Than*
     
  11. Qwikin

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    And being banned for saying Nazi is a toss-up, it may not be directly offensive to you, but there are many people on the server (and for that matter, in staff) who would be highly offended because of what specifically the Nazi party did. Do you go around comparing things to Nazi Germany in your daily activities? If you don't, you shouldn't here, if you do, that's quite disappointing.
     
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    Other than this whole ordeal, I have quite enjoyed playing on the server Qwikin. I do think, however, that this whole punishing for 'sex ref' and 'language' can be a little over the top sometimes. I may have exaggerated in my criticism, but I often use hyperboles to get my point across. I do not hate the server, I just believe there are many ways in which it can improve.
    EDIT: If a student is offended by Nazis, are they allowed to skip the history lesson on it? Can they complain and get the teacher who is teaching on Nazis fired? People are offended by all sorts of things (see triggers on tumblr), but that doesn't mean everyone should conform to appease them. If saying the word Nazi severely offends you, then you're the one with a problem.
     
  13. smk

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    Suddenly he doesn't act like a jerk in a ban appeal hmmm not coincidental
     
  14. Qwikin

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    No doubt, the server policies can be strict, no doubt, you should not be banned for a full week. But, what you did does deserve some type of repercussion, and whilst I wouldn't have made it so harsh (although my days as a staff member are in the past), that's not up to me, rather up to the staff member that banned you. I've had my say of things, and now I'm going to just wait until whoever banned you gets to this appeal and justifies themselves to you. Plus it's 11:30 and I'm tired.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 30, 2014, Original Post Date: Jul 30, 2014 ---
    You are being quite hostile, not once did I believe he didn't enjoy the server, I simply said criticizing it was not a valid use of time. If you can't learn how to have a civil conversation without hostility, kindly leave now.
     
  15. theonemcd

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    Thank you for the civilized argument, Qwikin. I understand where you're coming from. I wish others on this thread would take after you instead of personally attacking me and bringing up irrelevant information.
    EDIT: I have cooled off a bit after I was banned and can see a bit more clearly now. I do now regret my choice of words, as less harsher ones would have done the trick without this controversy. I do believe I deserve some punishment, but in my opinion a week is too long, as hackers get similar punishments.
     
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    Yeah, well, that's the maturity barrier of the forums, regardless, I have reggles on skype, and I'll send this to him to look at. Good day (or, night, technically).
     
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    I'll stop, but you should rethink before you post very harshly ig. I'm not this hostile to others.
     
  18. Pyro707

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    (Sorry for posting here) The server can take well phrased criticism but theo you constantly criticize everything everyone and everything on the server, your criticism is destructive, all you've ever done is give the server a negative feel, I try to like everyone on the server but your one of the few people I can't stand, you should have been banned a while ago but you didn't quite cross the line, perhaps you could have been banned earlier but none wrote a good report or bothered to take screenshots of you harassment.

    Ok now the theo that was a personal vendetta I had to get out of my system now I'm sorry for being so harsh but to be honest the above paragraph is somewhat irrelevant to the topic at hand.
    So anyway, I actually understand where you are coming from on this issue however. I agree that some of the policies are too strict.
    How shall I put this, I think you are actually making a good point, to make a historical reference to a political power considered evil by some is what makes it hate and not criticism, so in a way I hope you stay banned because you have a negative influence on the server but, even though I don't like to admit it, your ban length may have been a little unjust.
     
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    That was very mature of you Pyro and I respect that.
    But:
    you're*
     
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    Denied. This is a terrible way to act. Minecraft is a very simple game and several children with mild and/or minor autism, downsyndrome and diseases of that nature play this game. To see that what they have is being used as an insult? What kind of message does that get across. We don't need this conduct on our server. Please wait out your ban and think before you type when it lets up.
     
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