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Discussion in 'Denied' started by Deinen, Aug 30, 2015.

  1. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Survival server. Doesn't reset regularly, has no donor perks - no additional plugins. A lightweight, small, but effective world to play in. People that want factions can play and form groups and raid all the same, people who want to build and defend a town could do so, it has billions of options and it's almost nothing to add compared to the servers with 75 or 100 plugins.

    Costs nothing to implement, no dev needed. Just load a map up with the bare essential plugins, and you're done.

    New players will join Survival, not face a wild reset and leave, and eventually (maybe) go to towny. Most mini-games don't have purchaseable perks as well so it's not like this idea reduces the donation potential, but increases it.

    I've given you guys a gem of an idea, use it

    (Don't want to find another server just to play survival with my buds, I've spent quite a bit of money here, so I'd like to keep my business here)

    Edit: Look at almost all major servers, they all have Survival game-modes. New players will instantly see Survival and gravitate towards it, and not Wild (which they assume is survival but it's not)
     
  2. Lilstokes

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    Marry me. Also we need a random teleport sign with a cool down.
     
  3. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    ^ Disagree, the idea is for almost no plugins. Homes would be taken care of whatever, via a bed. It'd be ok if new players were randomly teleported on start, but had to walk and find their way from there.

    (I bet there is a broken mini-game that you guys could add this in it's spot like literally right now)
     
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  4. Lilstokes

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    Go onto any factions/survival server with a good amount of players. The area around spawn is absolutely demolished. I just don't want it to look ugly.
     
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  5. Deinen

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    Ok, good point there sir. I think due to the nature of this game-mode, it wouldn't be an extreme factions attitude. You know? Due to the diversity of people wanting to play a "factions" play-style, and those that want to eek out a living with a few friends in a mountain. I don't think there should be a central spawn (There would be no money in this game-mode), but players are just randomly put somewhere on the map.

    Additionally, rules would be different -

    Deals from towny do not apply
    There is no "scamming", "theft", "grief" - You literally trust nobody, it's a dog eat dog world.
     
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    This would easily be the most effortless thing we could add. And the most fun. +1.
     
  7. TNT404

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    How would it effectively prevent the obvious X-Ray issues?

    Also what basic commands would be in it, tpa and home? (Those two should be added tbh.)
     
  8. Draqq

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    Obvious +1 :)
     
  9. OneBreadSlice

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    How will this benefit the server? How will this addition bring in donations if there are no donator perks?

    Since you've already shared this idea with me previously, this is similar to factions. If factions brings in toxicity, this will too.
     
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    Nice, +1
     
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    Survival
    +1
     
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    I almost feel we should have a white listed mini-server that you would have to apply to get in. Something similar to mindcrack or hermitcraft. It would be pure survival except for maybe the bed thing that they have in hermitcraft.
     
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    Jake what the hell m8. Why would you -1 this?
     
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  17. Deinen

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    The same that every mini-game that we have, and don't sell donor perks for do. Most likely more-so because new players immediately go into the wild, thinking that is a survival server, but it is not. New players joining will immediately see Survival first, then Wild, and differentiate. Survival can hold new players until they become familiar with the towny system.

    Being that survival is not Factions, the population would not be as extreme, due to the game having more types of gameplay than just PVP and raiding. I think you would find a diverse population, and the toxicity would be akin to what you see in any competitive game-mode MeepCraft offers.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 30, 2015, Original Post Date: Aug 30, 2015 ---
    MineCraft has a built in anti-xray mechanism.

    No tpa, homes would be set by resting in a bed, skin to Vanilla MineCraft.
     
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    No it doesn't; even orbfusticator doesn't prevent xray enough. I can still xray spawners in the wild if I want--just forget the anti-xray.

    +1 to the idea, but after a while it will get very griefed and demolished. Maybe reset it once per year or something?

    We should at least have /tpa, /pay, and /home as well. Also would luring (from towns) be legal here? etc.
     
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    I apologize, spigot has built in functions for anti-xraying.

    +1

    Pay is null because there is no economy in this server. Tpa defeats the point of the challenge, which this game-mode is designed to provide. /home would be taken care of by essentials, and a bed.

    Any rule in towny that enforces deals, or agreements with other players is null and void in this world, you literally must trust nobody to be safe. Theft, grief, scamming would be allowed, as the policy would be "Do so at your own risk"

    IE: You find someone that wants to trade 5 iron for 2 diamonds, and you show up. He kills you, takes your things - This would be legal, because you were at fault for trusting that stranger. Imagine this game-mode as the wild west.

    Things akin to language would be enforced for the most part, perhaps local / world being less restrictive, however this may cause issues and not worth arguing over the details.
     
  20. metr0n0me

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    Just a few questions.

    I think tpa should be enabled, as new players often come with friends, and not letting friends play with each other would be a big turnoff. I remember as a new player with a friend named Pierrot3, we used to mine together in wild. In order to do so, we'd have to random teleport close to each other msg each other the coords, and then walk 3000 blocks to see each other. And if we died, it would take us another hour to find each other. I remember suggesting to the mods to give tpa to citizens (they finally did, thank god).

    If you were thinking about factions in this world, would we allow /f claim and world guarded faction lands? I think this would defeat the purpose of this world.
     
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