rule change

Hey so this is something I've disagreed with for a long time but I just figured out how to word it:

If you place a kid in a candy shop with no store workers what is the kid going to do? They're gonna steal all the candy, because it's fun and it tastes good.

Similarly,

If you place a kid in a KitPVP world or Spawn world with no protection what is the kid gonna do? Break everything.

In both of these situations there's a law that has been broken: 1) don't steal or 2) don't grief. However, due to humans being humans and having flaws, they break the rules anyways because they're trying to have fun and no one is telling them otherwise.

If a kid steals all the candy from the store without a store owner, are you really going to put the kid in prison for the rest of their life? Heck no! You're gonna lecture the kid on why it was wrong and give him a minor punishment.

If a kid griefs KitPvp world because of a server fault, are you really gonna permanently ban the kid? Evidently, yes! ??? ? ?

Do you see the inconsistencies here?

I believe the rule should be changed so that if this type of thing happens, they get a 1s tempban and a conversation on Discord about why what they did was wrong.

Why will this help the server? Well, for starters, less people will be banned -> more players and 2) you're teaching kids morals (awwweee) 3) this rule will line up better with the other rules (ex: warn players 5930 times before kicking for spam)

 

tragic

 

Agreed, I was almost permed for accidentally tpaing to Kit not knowing what was going on.

 

This should be like an hour ban - at most. The worlds are saved. Everything is backed up (or better be LOL)
We arent losing anything, no one is losing anything

 

yes! I meant to say this but I got too carried away lol. it takes like 5 minutes to restore it at Most.

 

Exactly!
Which is why a perm is not necessary by any stretch of the matter.
- no one gains anything
- staff don't lose anything other than 5-10 minutes of time at the most, which is not perm worthy lolol

There have been multiple instances of worlds such as old spawns, the old kit, the current worlds being breached, and all of that was fixed via restart and everything was happy. Sometimes there was no punishment sometimes there was an hour sometimes there were perms
its very heavily inconsistent.

 

To me, I think staff needs a universal guideline. Staff members are human beings too and especially when they are dealing with kids, it can get tedious.

Why is griefing 1st offense like a 12 hour ban while server grief 1st offense is permanent?

I feel like the whole punishment system should be redone. Less warnings, shorter bans.

 

But then you've got the issue of those players that keep coming back for more. If these new rules are implemented, then they'll have more chances to keep screwing up and saying sorry and coming back and doing it again. I feel like the rules need to be changed, but before that we need to control the issue of reoccuring incidents with one player.

 

As long as we're on this topic
kicking is a warning
js

 

Me and my friend showed up after most of the griefing had already happened. I left when told to, and I told my friend he had better leave and he hesitated so he got a 3 hour ban. We both ended up permed anyways.
Confusing.
I certainly agree a ban was in order, but for so many people to get permed is sort of strange

 

Is there a thread or Ban Appeal post to anyone involved with this?

 

It's already been resolved

 

I really loved the candy store comparison, just saying that was really creative.

 

Yeah, just hoping I could read it?

 

You can find ban appeals in the forum subsection Ban Appeals.