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Freedom of Speech

Discussion in 'Denied' started by MrChiddleSticks, Apr 6, 2016.

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  1. MrChiddleSticks

    MrChiddleSticks Meeper

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    Hello Meepcraft, mods, and etc...
    I would like to bring a new concept to Meepcraft. "Freedom of Speech" in which as we can say what we want in global as long as it does not harass people, tell people to commit self harm, tell people to hurt other people, excessive swearing, etc... As I am German I was recently surprised to have been banned for 12 hours for literally saying the sentence "More like a ****" in global, without a warning. I said it and literally 10 seconds later I was banned. I find this to be unacceptable. I believe that I said nothing wrong. I have seen multiple people receive warnings, being kicked, and or banned for saying what they believe in. We are not vegetables my dear tech. We would like to enjoy our time on Meepcraft just as you would, I do not see how Freedom of Speech would stop players from having a good experience on Meepcraft. I will give an example. Another player and I would frequently say "Kys" to one another as a joke. I know suicide is no joke and must be fixed, but I find that mods like Summrs who will ban for saying "I got my first kys today" (Kys is Danish for Kiss) is completely outrageous. I understand that this is a very extreme example but it needs to be addressed among the Moderators who seemingly enjoy banning people. I'd say part of the reason in the last 4 years we've gone from 900 players a day to 100 is the complete onslaught by the Moderators. Everyone is so worried about being banned perm nowadays they just take their money and join on a more lenient server. So I have essentially just ranted, I am calling for Freedom of Speech, or since its April, a spring cleaning of the Mods. Either or, thank you for your time.
     
  2. boombox123

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    I agree
     
  3. Lord_Walrus

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    Freedom of speech is pretty much applicable to the server already. A common misconception is that Freedom of Speech protects you to say anything you want. If you're limiting the freedom of others, it's strictly forbidden. Same on meep, nobody likes to see cussing in global, its just unpleasant, especially for a server with lots of young players.
     
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    Do you honestly think that that word is appropriate for a minecraft server...
     
  5. marshallmafers

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    Nah bruh, I see what you're saying, let everyone cuss. But the fact is that Meepcraft is a supposedly a PG rated server. Players can say limited curse words in /g. You can literally say what ever you want in /r or /msg. Making it open in /g would make it unattractive to new players.
     
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  6. boombox123

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    +2222222456789064
     
  7. builderjunkie012

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    This guy is too far gone
     
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  8. Summers

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    I repeatedly told you to stop saying the things you were saying in shout before banning you. No we are not going to have this "freedom of speech" thing because of how much it can be abused. You were banned for failing to listen to my many warnings, I also noticed after I banned you the chat settled down. Easy solution to make chat settle down ban the attenrion seeker that cannot follow simple direction. I do not enjoy banning for silly chat related offenses LOL. Is this a joke thread because I find it so funny.
     
  9. anikin ultimate

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    This is alrady a thing
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2016 ---
    It is a thing to some extent. It can be abused and that's when staff come in. At least some of the time. I do agree with the fact that staff need to learn when enough is enough. They do it too soon or too late depending on the member. Only very few do it properly. Freedom of speech should be allowed, however staff need to understand when someone is going too far. If someone has an opinion, they can share it. if it's too abusive, then I agree. We all have freedom of speech but only to some extent. Don't abuse it, and you won't lose it.
     
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    Just horrible. The downfall of a server is when peeps curse.
     
  11. 2leah2

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    I do agree that this went too far but, I would just like to say that Chiddle & I did not mean Kys as in Kill yourself. We said Kys to each other because it means kiss in Danish. As a side note; I had absolutely no clue that it also meant kill yourself. If I had known then I would not have been using that word. From now on I just say kiss and I hope Chiddle will too.

    I think it was fine to get a temp-ban for (although i didn't) because it had gotten way out of hand and it just kept going so someone had to stop it.
     
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    This is bad so don't add it staff cussing is really bad so I'm a -9999999999999999999999999999999999999999
     
  13. GingerManOWNS

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    -1. Meep is a PG server. You say you say KYS as a joke but then say its not something to joke about? If you know someone thing is wrong then don't say it. We didn't drop to 100 players average because of not allowing them to curse? If you can show me some form of proof of this then maybe I'll agree with you. We lost players because they lost interest in the server.
     
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    LOL Summrs is one of the best moderators you can possibly find. He does his job very well and he did the right thing by banning. I mean, it was necessary to zimmer down the chat. he achieved that by banning. I honestly don't know why we are still talking about all this. Might aswell let it slide and forget about it since it wasn't the worst thing that could've happened.
     
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    Freedom of speech. That's not saying random curse words in global. It's stating your opinion

    What, these words harass people. Otherwise why would you say them.


    That's called harassment.

    Hmm, that sounds fimiliar. Sounds what someone did that they got banned for half a day for.
    Hypocrite.

    So since your German you were suprised when you were banned, first how does being German have anything to being banned on a Minecraft server.



    12 hours. Your saying you can't wait for twelve hours. Go outside some.

    This can be offensive to a lot of people.
    Also in global.


    I wonder why, maybe because of what you said.

    This is a family friendly server. Would you say that to one of you parents, no you wouldn't.

    How, if you look when you put it in forums right here, it looked like ****, does that say something.

    People here enjoy Meepcraft. Who is we, I think its you.

    DO YOU NOT REALIZE WHAT YOU SAID IS WRONG

    I'm not, not a lot of people are. You are because you can't seem to understand what words can do.

    Why.



    I'm going to call out for all the people who agreed with this, you didn't read it did you.
    Again this is a family friendly server.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2016 ---
    That makes no since.
     
  16. alex77034

    alex77034 Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'

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    You honestly can't decipher what people are saying. It's silly that your complaining about something illegal. It's like if someone killed someone out on the street and then they starting complaining for being arrested. It clearly states in the rules this, so you shouldn't be surprised. To be perfectly honest with you, we have a lot of freedom as to what we can say. In /msg and in /mail we're allowed to say whatever we would like unless she/he isn't comfortable with it. In addition, the things we can say in shout go beyond PG. Words such as "hell" or "damn" or "ass" are perfectly allowed. Your also getting mad at Summrs for banning you, yet this is what he has to do. Any staff member would ban someone for this so in your view anyone is equally as bad. But then you have to go even further and say it in public. Staff complaints are meant to be in the staff comments section and not anywhere else. This is just incorrect and your ignorance is leading you to nowhere
     
  17. junelawnchaired

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    Denied, our rules are fine as-is. If you have a problem with a staff member, feel free to leave a comment here. Also, if you disagreed with your ban, you could have made a ban appeal here.
     
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