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Denied Ban Appeal

Discussion in 'Ban and Mute Appeals Archive' started by Coelho, Jan 9, 2016.

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  1. Coelho

    Coelho Onis_Luck Elder

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    Member Name

    Additional In Game Names: Fireconnor234

    When you were banned: 1/8/16

    8 January 2016


    Reason for ban: "Advertising"

    Ban Length: Assuming Permanent, No Time Stamp was Included

    Staff member who issued ban: junelawnchair

    Why we should consider your appeal: Because I am entitled as a Human Being by not only the United States of America's Constitution, but by International Law of the United Nations to my freedom of speech. I have the right to communicate My opinions and ideas without fear of *censorship*, as well as receive and impart information and ideas through *any media* and regardless of frontiers. I emphasize Censorship and "Any Media" because an Online server is a form of media By definition, and the reason for this ban is due to censorship. Whether or not the owner of this server has rules against advertising, I still have a right by International Law to advertise if I damn well want to. His rules do not overshadow International Law. This brings me to another point. You say I was "advertising" as if I blatantly went and attempted to get someone to look at another server, which is not the case at all. I simply asked a question about another server, quote "Does anybody know anything about (said server)?" This has to be the most innocent form of advertising I have ever seen. I am doing my best to leave opinion out of this, as I know it will only worsen the issue. Thank you for taking to the time to read through all of this.

    Please give any other information you might think is useful for us to know: Cited Research:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/FreedomOpinion/Pages/Standards.aspx

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_States Under "Individual Website" ^

    You might notice a trend in that none of these websites or any other half-credible websites I found stated that advertising was not allowed. However, all of these websites clearly stated that I have a right to say my opinion, my ideas, etc. without fear f censorship. Again, banning me from the server for "advertising" (and again, unintentional advertising at that) is a form of censorship.
     
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  2. Richard FS

    Richard FS Active Meeper

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    I was not logged in when filing this appeal. This is my profile if needed.
     
  3. CyborgZeroX

    CyborgZeroX -=Retired Staff Member=- Elder

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    How about no, We have a rule that Advertising is not allowed on the server.

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    As you can see this is the rule.
     
  4. Richard FS

    Richard FS Active Meeper

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    Like I said, I understand that this is the rule, but Your rules do not overrule the rules of International Law nor of the United States Constitution. Just because it is a rule on your server does not mean anything. I have the right to say what I'm thinking, and for you to censor that is literally illegal. I don't care if the server is insecure about losing players, it's the law and it is strictly enforced. I could understand if I was deliberately trying to advertise other servers and get people to leave Meepcraft, and I understand that you are trying to prevent this. However, even if I was doing just that, I still have the right to. So how about yes.
     
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  5. Richard FS

    Richard FS Active Meeper

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    Good Job, you know how to regurgitate what I've already said twice. My point is, permanently banning me from the server for asking a simple question is pretty extreme. That's like arresting a Twelve-Year-Old for asking his mother about sex while still a minor. He didn't commit any offense nor did he intentionally try to convince someone that he did, yet he's in prison for life. Makes a lot of sense. May I also mention that this was a one time offense, meaning the first time I've done this (obviously the last as well), and that rushing to ban me for asking a question is unnecessary and frankly, a waste of energy and time. While other players are hacking the minigames, hacking the Meebles system, spamming in chat, etc etc, all the staff seems to be focused on is banning a player who unintentionally advertised another server. I'm sorry that you're insecure about the server, but that really is too much. I enjoy playing on the server very much, but to have staff who want to ban someone for a minuscule offense just lowers the reputation and ruins the play value of the server, which retrospectively is advertising against your server, ironically. Again, this was a one time offense which really isn't even an offense considering I wasn't intentionally advertising against your server. So banning me permanently drives me away from the server as well as spreading the word around that the server doesn't have their priorities set straight, which also advertises against your server. all that was needed to get your point across was to kindly tell me that mentioning other servers is unappreciated. The real reason I acted the way I did was because nobody answered my question as to why, and by the time someone finally told me why, they were Angrily telling me to leave or I'd be banned. Now, all I ask is that the ban be lifted, and this won't happen again. This could have been over four hours ago if you had just kindly requested that I don't do this a second time. Instead, you fueled my anger with snarky remarks, dragging this out and wasting both of our's day.
     
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  6. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Elder

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    Let me start here.

    Governments restrict speech with varying limitations. Common limitations on speech relate to libel, slander,obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, public security, public order, public nuisance, campaign finance reform and oppression. Whether these limitations can be justified under the "harm principle" depends upon whether influencing a third party's opinions or actions adversely to the second party constitutes such harm or not. Governmental and other organizations often have policies restricting the freedom of speech for political reasons, for example, speech codes at state schools. or minecraft servers with younger children.

    Article 19 of the ICCPR states that "everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". Article 19 additionally states that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "for respect of the rights or reputation of others" or "for the protection of national security or of public order, or of public health or morals".


    Our morals, and rights of our reputation are protected by the rules we have set, that you broke.

    You're welcome.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Jan 9, 2016 ---
    Most perm bans are not meant to be perm, simply to get the point across that we do not allow other server addresses to be said in shout. You have not shown you understand these rules, or care to follow them so we sit at square one. Do you understand the rules we have set in place? Will you follow them and not post other servers in shout?
     
  7. Richard FS

    Richard FS Active Meeper

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    No, I don't care to follow your rules. That would totally explain why I'm asking to be un-banned. How do you have the audacity to say that knowing well that this is the first time I've done this and saying not once, not twice, but THREE times that this will not happen again? I guess telling you it won't happen again and therefore implying that I'm willing to follow the rules comes across to you as me not understanding them and not caring to follow them. I stated it in the ORIGINAL BAN APPEAL almost FOUR hours ago that this wouldn't happen again, and here we sit four hours later with you having the mere temerity to say that "I do not understand the rules nor care to follow them". You can't be serious! You're talking to me as if I just hacked into the server and destroyed everything. I don't even talk In the Global chat most of the time. I am a modest citizen who does nothing on the server but build and occasionally play a few minigames, yet you are treating me as if I come on everyday harassing people and being routy in the chat.
     
  8. Richard FS

    Richard FS Active Meeper

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    Thanks to you, my food is cold.
     
  9. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Elder

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    Once you calm down message me. My foods still warm so Im not waiting
     
  10. Richard FS

    Richard FS Active Meeper

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    I've already told you what you wanted to hear several times, I don't know what else you want me to do.
     
  11. CyborgZeroX

    CyborgZeroX -=Retired Staff Member=- Elder

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    This appeal has been denied, We have warned you many times before that Advertising is not allowed on Meepcraft yet you kept at it. Please appeal in 3 weeks for a better chance of being unbanned, If you can't do the time don't do the crime.

    Any IP's or server names in shout is Advertising. Please re-read the rules and come back with a clear and calm mind.
     
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