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Discussion in 'Denied' started by Blue_Marlin, Nov 27, 2016.

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Should we merge gamma into legacy?

  1. yes! ;)

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  2. no way! ;/

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  1. Kling

    Kling Break blocks not hearts

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    I do not hate Legacy, I own Mistveil located in Beta and absolutely love it. Two economies does not bother me, what bothers me is the sentimental 15 players players that stay in Legacy because they do not want to leave the towns that they were in. I created a town that I love but still did make the switch. I have seen people obtain players when they join the server and say ''where did my meebles go'' ''why are my items gone'' for the simple fact people bringing them to the legacy world they have no idea it is something separate. It is much better for the new players to be in Gamma and know that these legacy worlds will not stay forever so they themselves do not become sentimental.

    With that players can get frustrated and not enjoy the server since the meebles from parkour do not go to Legacy, you need to tell them these things for instance Gamma is the new focused towny world and A/B are the older versions that are still here for the people that wanted to continue in their old towns, keep in mind when we have new possibilities when we have the manpower for instance a Towny War world or UHS being completely redone so it is not absolutely garbage we will need to get rid of those dead worlds.

    We will have players saying I will leave Meep if my town is gone and yadda yadda but I believe only a hand full will leave. With that being said when the time comes and Legacy is dropped we will lose a handful but with the things that will be brought Meepcraft will gain more since they will not be deleted without something better being introduced.

    Merging the two economies is an atrocious idea as well, players have tonnes of items in Legacy that can be shifted into Gamma for instance:
    Spawners: You will have to be willing to have no more spawners in Legacy unless you want items dropping in price since they will be much easier to collect.
    Meebles: Assets in items and player balances will introduce a tonne of meebles, millions!
    Server not moving forward: Meepcraft will not be able to move forward in a smooth transition if there are 3 towny worlds focused on at the same time. We have no space for new large scaled additions since half of the players will move back to Legacy and complain where they are bored and want change.

    You tell me to keep an open mind, ever since I became more knowing to suggestions I have thrown away my personal preferences and picked what I believe is best for Meepcraft. I would love to have Beta still but at the end of the day merging the two economies is not a good idea and Legacy needs to become more dead than it is so the changes will be smoother.
     
  2. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Two towny servers must die. It's the only way to congregate enough players into a single world which would enable mayors to start and run any type of active town with a size-able and active membership, which is all but impossible now.
     
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  3. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

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    look at all the other top rated servers, they have 300+ people playing at once, very actively, with 1 economy, we with 2 economies aren't topping even 100, I got excited because there were 56 people on yesterday when normally when I'm on there's around 30, i continue to play meep because I love it and I love the people, I just can't get over the fact that we have 2 economies, what I want to do isn't going meas up gamma but make it better, I want to reunite again, I want us all to play together, and yes I know I could easily poof join gamma and I'm back at it again, NO it's not that easy, why can't we atleast have 1 economy? Atleast leave everything how it is and have an economy that shares between gamma and legacy? That would atleast make things a little better, people want their things back, I guarantee if you ask anyone playing in gamma if they could transfer their belongings from legacy to gamma they would. So why not just let us all play together? As one server again?
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 28, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 28, 2016 ---
    And no two towny servers don't have to die, anything is possible, it's just y'all don't want to make it possible.
     
  4. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    wat
    It wont, thats why lots of things are different, thats why new plugins are being made and stuff is changing, life is good
    Yeah you can, you can generally trade alpha/beta meebles for gamma and visa versa (It's 100% possible don't act like it isnt ;) )
    We arent saying it's impossible, but we are saying wiht 100% certainty that it's just not gonna happen

    Why? It's not really that hard to understand for most players

    Not even that many people play, don't lie to make this go into your favor

    I don't know why its so impractical
    It's only impractical to YOU because YOU don't like it

    So it's okay to ruin people's work except when it goes against what you want? ok.

    Edit: It's not about what we CAN do or what CAN happen, it's what the majority of players and what staff and admins in particular want for the server.
     
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  5. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

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    When I said meepcraft history will repeat itself I ment people will start getting tired of gamma, yesterday they complained that everyone in legacy had more then 30k and my point to that was, if they can just transfer the meebles then everyone would transfer from legacy to gamma making everyone in gamma have more then 30k, you say gamma won't turn into how legacy used to be but no one expected legacy to get boring when it was first created, as far as meeble transfers you need an admin to do it because klutch had us all ask him to do it on forums, and he changed it and as of now the rates are different, 2 economies is nonsense because it is like playing on 2 different servers within 1, don't accuse me of lying with how many people play legacy because there are roughly 10-15 actives on there (maybe not all at one time like gamma) but they are there, we have about 8 or 9 just in our town alone and we're clearly not the only legacy town, it's not impractical because I don't like it it's impractical because you dived us legacy players from gamma players, when is it ever practical to divide a server up? NEVER you put spawn, mini games and everything else over into gamma hmmm yeah so it's only impractical for me because I don't like it? No Muunkee, y'all deserted Legacy and are pretty much forcing us to go into gamma, and I NEVER EVER said it was okay to ruin someone's work so please DO NOT put words in my mouth, higher up staff is ruining our work on Legacy, and as I explained yesterday, yall say you kept legacy pretty much for memories, every gamma player that's staff keeps saying it's only for memories, well in large towns like DreamCraft with 100+ homes in it with 8 ish active players isn't going to cut it, we have enough money in bank for a couple years (like 2) but no income, and I'm not just worried about our town I'm worried about everyone's town! So again please don't act like I'm being selfish because I'm just trying to look out for everyone and the server, but that's okay.
     
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  6. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    completely untrue, while it is an available option you can do this via normal players
    If you want to buy 10 gamma meebles for 100 legacy meebles, you send player1 100 meebles while in alpha/beta, and player1 sends you 10 meebles while in a gamma world.

    Who said legacy was boring

    Once more, you seem to be the only person having difficulty with this concept. This is also why we highly encourage gamma over legacy.

    Again, we recommend gamma over legacy, whether you are divided or not is your choice and your's alone

    Each money by trading gamma meebles, and do /wild to get items and money from jobs.
     
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  7. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

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    Who said Legacy was boring? forreal? lol I love Legacy but wasn't the reason for creating gamma because everyone was bored for Legacy? if everything was perfectly fine with Legacy then why was Gamma created?? Legacy was fine for me and if people wanted things changed then Legacy should have had some improvements, creating Gamma should have been the last step, they should have tried more things to get people to stay in Legacy, as Cluelessklutz wanted towny wars? that should have happened along time ago and just maybe we wouldn't of had to create Gamma and a 2nd economy. obviously that among other things. idk the exact amount of time that it took to plan Gamma but one day I go online and they were talking about a server reset, well everyone except maybe 10 people (who might I add when this came about it was closer to the beginning of 2016 and we were having 75+ people playing) wanted the reset and everyone else threatened to quit, then within a month or so boom heres Gamma, and Gamma would have been good just (again I have to stress the fact that this is my opinion because I'm the only person who apparently has a problem with this) which I'm not many more agree to an extent with me, to me Gamma should have been added into Legacy to begin with, and then they could start into creating new towns etc, that's what gamma was for right? I guarantee if people could bring all their belongings into Gamma from Legacy they would, but again what would that solve? all they get to do is build more buildings, it isn't like they are trying to get money or anything, they already transferred it, Gamma should be added into Legacy and let us all be 1 again.
     
  8. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    Nope.
    This IS the last step.
    I am done. This is not happening, regardless of how much you argue or fight for it. Suggestions saying this have been denied before, and will be denied if they're made in the future. I can 1000% guarantee this fact.

    Denied.
     

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