Gay Rights

That just worsens the problem.

 

Not really. There are areas with unisex bathrooms and there's been no problems there.

 

I haven't heard of these areas (perhaps part of the 'not a problem'), but all of the unisex bathrooms I know of are either single stalled (so only one person at a time), or next to both a boy's and a girl's room.

 

I think I agree with this, but I don't think that's the point I was making.
I was trying to ask, I think, who is in the wrong:
Me, asking someone to stop a behavior I find uncomfortable (to make myself more comfortable), or them, who are continuing a behavior they find comfortable but are aware makes me uncomfortable?

Of course, I agree.

 

What if a creepy/pedophilic adult decides to go into the bathroom for kids? I don't think that forcing parents to send their kids into a separate bathroom from themselves is a very good idea.

 

Obviously with younger children the parents would be able to go in with them and for the older kids that would go to the loo by themselves any ways the same could be said about that circumstance.

 

I only feel it necessary to comment here because of the many statements made that use the Bible as a justification for anti-gay sentiments. That is one thing I cannot stand more than anything else, as it seems most people only read part of the Bible, then only use that part to support their argument. For everyone who quotes it on this matter, allow me to present Matthew 7:1-5
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."
In the end, your beliefs on this matter are between you and God. I have no right to condem anyone for what they believe, so why do you? I will personally argue against any Christian who believes it should be illegal. After all, it's not as if they're forcing you to believe in it, just that they should be treated with the same respect you'd give to anyone else.
Regarding the comparison that the Bible supports slavery, let me remind you of an aspect about the time of its creation. In Jewish culture, no one was born a slave. Nor we're they a paticular race or religion. Most slaves were captives of war or someone who had sold themselves into it. In addition, all slaves would be freed every seven years. This contrasts drastically with the slavery practiced in the 1850's.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

• "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Chapter 18 verse 22
• "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13

I'll be as candid as I can here mate. Please don't do this. You're a much better person, than to use apologetics to defend slavery.It's okay to admit that the Bible isn't perfect, even if you believe in the Christian god.

I'm more than willing to talk about slavery in the Bible. Why I find it so repulsive, along with the passages in which it is clearly condoned. But I'd like to offer the off-ramp here. We can just admit that slavery is reprehensible, and be done with this particular topic.

Defending slavery is beneath you, and I know that. Almost everyone that's seen you in these forums knows that. Let's not waste time on slavery -- recognizing that the book is not absolutely perfect.

 

Allow me to explain, I never argued the Bible approves of homosexuality, more that even if you live by its guidelines, you are not to judge another for what they believe. The idea something you feel is wrong should be illegal, though it does not harm anyone (such as murder or theft), is indeed wrong in itself. If I'm sitting on a bench, and a gay comes and sits down next to me, am I not supposed to treat them with the same respect I would give if anyone else (assuming I didn't know any of them; it is natural to have more or less respect for a person if you know them personally) were in their place?

 

Necro

 

I agree with this statement.
greatly said.

 

If you saw a gay couple kissing what would you do?

 

don't start with me.

 

If you saw a gay couple kissing what would you do?

It's a legitimate question.

 

Pls justify??



Sigh this section was so much better when debathiest was here.

 

Same thing as what I'd do with a straight couple. Get a room

 

Would you also like to make people missing limbs illegal because it's not natural? See gay people literally look away.

 

Prove it buddy. I need the context clues that this might be an allegory for something, because from reading it this verse just sounds like it is a statement made in pure, threatening vitriol to the Babylonians.