Gay Rights

**** today's society, am I right?

 

Today's society is more tolerant than it ever has been.

 

While true, it is also rather ignorant. Controversy over gender preference has not been as big of an issue in the past as it is today. There's no reason to disallow members of the LGBTQ+ community the same rights as anyone else has.

 

It actually was a big issue back then. In the USA, all states had bans on same-sex activity, and Illinois was the first state to remove that law in 1962. In the 1800s, homosexuality was illegal in (I'm guessing most or all of the USA) many countries. By 2003, there were still states that banned homosexuality, but then the Supreme Court struck those bans down.

In the middle ages in Europe around 1000-1600 AD, the term "f**" was used to mean "bundle of sticks". The "bundles of sticks" was the bundles of sticks they used to burn homosexuals. As time progressed, the term was then used in a derogatory way to describe homosexuals. Currently, Europe and Australia are the only populated continents without bans on homosexuality. (It's legal in Russia, but homosexuals are given no rights and are not allowed freedom of expression)

Now, not all parts of the world were bad. Many Native American tribes have always embraced their belief in "two spirits", because they believed a man and woman live in us all. Which resulted in feminine men marrying men and masculine women marrying women. Many Buddhists, especially samurais centuries ago in Japan also engaged in same-sex activity, and accepted that humans can bond in such ways. Even today you'll find Native Americans and Buddhists attempting to get same-sex marriages, but having trouble with doing so because of same-sex marriage bans.

All and all, you'll find that the main reason for hate against LGBT people is due to the influence of religion, primarily Christianity and Islam. While Judaism isn't necessarily "okay" with it, they tend to be much more tolerant towards homosexuals.

 

It's stupid. There's no way to argue that gays don't deserve equal rights. No religious or personal belief should dictate the freedom of others. We're not changing anything, as they teach us everyday about the struggles of the Blacks back in the 20th century, and the Jews during the Holocaust, and yet similar events keep happening. I don't believe we will ever learn how oblivious we are to our own destruction until it's written in a history book.

 

Gay people are still people. They deserve dem's rights. Besides, you don't wake up one day and decide: "Ooh! You know what would be cool? It'd be really cool if I was gay." They are just gay like people are either living or dead. Not to say it wouldn't be awkward as a straight person to be friends with someone of the same gender and suddenly figure out that they have had a crush on you the whole time...

 

I just want to state my opinion. Everyone has the right to pursue happiness correct. Is getting married not an example of someone pursuing happiness? Straight Caucasian people can marry, Straight African American people can marry, Straight Hispanic people can marry, and the list goes on. Why not gays? If all people have the right to pursue happiness why don't homosexuals have the right to marry. This means that are not being treated as equal people, and thats just wrong.

Also don't make the stupid argument that they choose to be gay. What mentally sane person would decide to be gay if they new they were going to be treated like crap.

 

Nope. You are so beyond wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology This is not the view of any psychologist in the 21st century.

 

You'd be surprised how judgmental nature can be. Whether or not homosexuality is a "mental illness" is debatable. It is a fact that it works in a similar way as left or right handedness (which is not a mental illness). It really depends on how you look at it. The only problem is that people think all mental disorders need to be treated.

 

So you're saying that if you're gay its like you have a DNA defect or something, but guess what? Dimples are also technically birth defects, and its not like they are bad.

 

You mentioned something in your DNA that makes you different, saying as a mutation.

 

I figured I would post this since it is pretty big news.

The Supreme Court of the United States has officially agreed to hear same-sex marriage cases in April. This is just in time for them to make a ruling in June. 4 justices are "for" same-sex marriage, while 4 others are "against". Justice Kennedy is a conservative justice who has good with gay rights in the past. He even wrote the majority opinion in the Windsor v. United States case in 2013, where a key part of DOMA was struck down. However, this doesn't necessarily mean he will rule in favor of the new cases since they are much different than the other gay rights cases. Should the states define their marriage laws? Or should all states grant equal protection to same-sex couples? I guess we'll settle this once and for all in June.


http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/breaking-marriage-takes-center-stage-at-the-supreme-court

 

I believe no one should gain rights from marriage, as it is a factor that shouldn't make you want to be with someone. It's a rightist view when as a whole im mostly leftist.

 

So what does this mean? Would gay marrisged be legalised all over the U.S or is it something else?

 

Well, they accepted 4 cases.

2 cases deal with legalizing same-sex marriage. (Michigan and Kentucky)
1 case deals with recognizing same-sex marriage performed elsewhere. (Ohio)
the other case is just to recognize the marriages of 3 couples, so I'm really not sure about that one. (Tennessee)

If they rule if favor of legalizing same-sex marriage, then it will be legal in all 50 states.
If they rule in favor of recognizing same-sex marriage performed elsewhere, BUT rule against legalizing it, then all of the USA will recognize same-sex marriage performed elsewhere. However, states will be allowed to re-ban same-sex marriage in their own state.
If they rule against both of those cases, then we will go back to having each state decide. Many of the states that had their bans struck down will re-ban same-sex marriage.

As for the last one... I honestly don't know.

Basically, three things can happen.
1) same-sex marriage legal and recognized in all 50 states.
2) foreign same-sex marriage recognized, but not performed in some states
3) we go back to having each state decide.

 

Sexual preference shouldnt be anybody elses concern accept the people who are banging eachother. Its their business and their business alone.

They're not hurting anybody. Leave'em be. There are more things in this planet to be concerned with than Gay Rights.

 

I know being gay isn't something to be ashamed of but being straight in a public high school with 2000 students approximate, seeing so many boys and girls in a relationship that you never see any boys with boys. I see gay people all the time but I don't see relationships. So it would be a bit awkward to see two guys kissing and making out. Again it's not something to make fun of but its just something you don't se everyday​

 

Apparently there were a LOT of LGBT people in my old hell school and it turns out that they are bi and their boy friend is bi, and they had a trans friend, an Asexual friend and apparently a lot of gay and bi frends as well, apparently anime club is the new drama club and is really awesome and accepting of the fact that you *gasp* play pokemon.
Though oddly enough though the only people I saw fighting like a couple were never couples. I think I only saw like 2 definitively LGBT couples.

 

1) Can you provide some evidence for this please? I know it might be comfortable to post brash assertions as fact, but s'not happening on my watch. The DSM (the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals in the United States.) does not think being gay is a mental illness, at all. Quite the opposite.

Go against life? You do know that up to 10% of certain species are gay, right? Not, "Animals that get confused and accidentally shag the same sex." I mean, animals that consistently display homosexual behaviour and even keep homosexual partners for life.

Here's a full list of mammals that have been known to show homosexual behaviour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Are they going against life too? They mentally ill?

2) Ahhhh yes, the "They can't reproduce" argument. What about asexual humans? Are they 'not alive' as you so happen to put it? What about heterosexual couples that don't want to have kids, are infertile, or too old to have kids?

These arguments are old-hat, man. Come on.

 

Equal rights for everyone.