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The Unjust Return of Hornemans

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by ekjhgekuie, May 7, 2018.

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  1. alex77034

    alex77034 Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'

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    Also, transferring money between alternate accounts has been illegal for a while, so ??
     
  2. lollisweet101

    lollisweet101 Celebrity Meeper

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    yeah, you don't just change it because of one player donating tons of money. I think Meep needs to work on the quality of the server instead of the quantity of the cash.
     
  3. Hornemans

    Hornemans God of Meebles

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    Thanks for the gracious welcome back! I appreciate all of you and your support during this hard time for me. I want all to know I am doing well and will be getting back into full swing of things soon enough.
    Staff, don't talk about any bans, did you expect anything different? Contrary to popular belief, Hornemans is not that special.
    Viperfan (and group) was doing something very different and nothing even close to being similar.
    or because he's a cousin of someone important, or because he's a girlfriend of someone important, or because he's a dad of someone important, or because he's is someone important himself, or because he owns the server, or because he's got mad monies, or because he's got mad charm, or because he's crazy smart, or... I hope you get the idea.
    Yes it does, Global rules, Section #4 is newly added and clarifies now that basically, ANY use of alts working together is bannable. Before it just said you could not pay your main account, which Hornemans was not, All alt money stayed on an alt account (actually it's in the ground in a chest all 10 million of it), so it was not breaking the rules as Hornemans did not have the "alt monies". This has since been clarified and Hornemans now will follow the guidance given and follow the rules as they were described to him.
    Hornemans was not doing this, yes there were logs between accounts but it is the equivalent of buying an item from another person.
    The rules were changed to make it more clear, and thus can not truly punish someone for something that was not clearly outlined. The rule I was accused of breaking "no unfair alt advantage" is so vague it can be interpreted by any staff for any reason and be used to ban a person (which is was happened) it was discussed by all staff and even Fuzzlr himself got involved, and they made a decision (updated the rules) and unban me. I hope this clears up any rumors or untrue stores people are making up. Thanks.
     
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  4. nokes

    nokes Popular Meeper

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    Hornemans - Ban Appeal
    • You may not transfer Meebles between accounts through any means; including town banks, gold blocks, and any other means.
    • You may not gain any kind of advantage over other players through the use of alternate accounts.
    sell to yourself = transfer meeb between accounts
    obtain a ludicrous amount of vote keys = gain of advantage over other players
    :pompous:
     
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  5. ekjhgekuie

    ekjhgekuie Celebrity Meeper

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    That is a nice essay. I have a question. Did you unfairly inject money in to the economy in a way that was detrimental to the server?

    Now, you can answer in tw0 ways. I will lay them out so you don't avoid the question.

    Answer 'yes':

    You injected money into the economy unfairly.
    'acts detrimental to the servers' are against the rules.
    You carried out acts detrimental to the servers by injecting money unfairly.
    You broke the rules.

    Answer 'no':
    Why were you banned?
     
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  6. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    "MeepCraft Staff reserves the right to use good judgement for punishments and ban lengths, along with combined infractions. Lying to a staff member will also result in a harsher punishment.

    This rules list cannot possibly hope to cover all instances of behavior that is detrimental to the servers or community, thus the MeepCraft Staff reserves the right to warn, kick, or ban players deemed to be detrimental as well as the right to form new rules when needed. Admins also reserve the right to reset player data as needed. "
     
  7. Adrian

    Adrian Epic Staff Member Administrator

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    Unbans cost $1000 USD, that's against the EULA because its over $200
     
  8. lollisweet101

    lollisweet101 Celebrity Meeper

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    Friend, cousin, or whatever, they shouldn't be treated any differently than the rest of us. And if they are, that's just unfair treatment. Need I say more?
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    We might as well get deleted then.
     
  9. Hornemans

    Hornemans God of Meebles

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    I think the answer is pretty obvious. I'm I ban? I am online right now.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 7, 2018, Original Post Date: May 7, 2018 ---
    Judgement and punishements were discussed and resolved. Hence I am logged in right now. Seems like a no-brainer?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 7, 2018 ---
    where you get $1,000? It cost $3,000... $200 x alts = price... right? That is still EULA compliant.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 7, 2018 ---
    You left out the "owner" or "owner dad" options... and are you saying the owner or owners parents are not able to unban themselves on demand?
     
  10. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    "
    • You may not gain any kind of advantage over other players through the use of alternate accounts."
     
  11. Fruity_196

    Fruity_196 Popular Meeper

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    was, 'not being able to transfer money from an alt to your main account' not a rule before this ? I mean that's the whole reason he got banned right ?
    But staff decided to unban hornemans , without a second appeal , let him KEEP ALL the money he got from alt abusing And let him play like nothing happened. But it's okay because you guys updated the rules right ? If enough people are telling you staff that this is wrong and how we feel about it ,maybe you guys should listen ?? Point is , he broke the rules and got away with it, so maybe you can see why people are a little mad. You didn't even wipe the money he got from alt abusing ?! I mean seriously
     
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  12. Hornemans

    Hornemans God of Meebles

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    You talking about me or the server?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 8, 2018, Original Post Date: May 8, 2018 ---
    Your deduction in the rules are correct, however, you clearly have not been reading... hornemans did not keep the money on his "main" buying a voting key from another player who may or may not have been an alt is 100% legit. So /pay'ing Hornemans from and ALT is illegal (which hornemans did NOT do) Hornemans got a key, third parties got moneis in exchange for the said key. Hope this clears up your misunderstanding.
    Fake News.... Read above.
     
  13. Summers

    Summers Hot Meeper

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    I wonder if he actually believes the garbage he types.
     
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  14. Hornemans

    Hornemans God of Meebles

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    Everything Hornemans types is the gold (and truth for that matter) so why would he not believe it?
     
  15. Kling

    Kling Break blocks not hearts

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    Possibly suffers from pathological lying, please be easy on him. Much like with the boombox appeals if you repeatedly state the same statement you can hope that others believe you, despite all evidence against you and clear rule violation written in the rules you manage to convince people. My hat is off to you because what you've done is remarkable, welcome back Hornemans.
     
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  16. alex77034

    alex77034 Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'

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    LOL.

    I usually have some sort of response to everything but this I can’t even imagine responding to. . .
     
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  17. lanekids40

    lanekids40 Popular Meeper

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    this level of BS is unmatched by anything.
     
  18. lollisweet101

    lollisweet101 Celebrity Meeper

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    Yes. Also, I the "friends, cousins, or WHATEVER". The whatever is the etc, so that does mean I said owner dad or something. Also why would the owner ban themselves?
     
  19. LargeUnit

    LargeUnit Celebrity Meeper

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    haha this thread is funny.

    this unban is very simple. there was reasonable doubt that he was alt abusing. "someone" sold him vote keys for 2,000. As obvious as it may be to everyone here that it's him, there is still reasonable doubt. hence, he's unbanned. the only way you're finding him guilty is if he admits to it.
     
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  20. BlimeyReginald

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    I really don't want to get involved. I'm just incredibly confused on why you all waste your time on the subject. It is what it is, accept it. I don't want to take either side and I don't want to this to continue any further.

    It's a waste of time bickering. It doesn't matter what he's done to get back in. He's done it. Yes, I don't understand what he's done in the past since I'm new, but please, everyone just go on with your lives and quit wasting time on this subject. There's better things to do.
     
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