World of Color Update Suggestion

So we recently updated to 1.12.1 and added in 2 new plot types and one more that wasn't listed in the update. We added jails, farms, and inns. First i'll explain what each do, and then my suggestion.

Quoting from Towny Plot Types
Jails: Jails are used in towny wars which we don't have so I'm not quite sure why we adding them. Here's what they do.

• Players can become jailed if:
  • The player’s mayor/sheriffs send them to jail.
  • An attacker who attacks a town which considers him an Enemy (Nation-relationship) dies in that Town. He is sent to the first available Jail plot of the defending town.

• Jailed players become unjailed if:
  • they leave their town and become a nomad,
  • the mayor/sheriff unjails them,
  • the player pays a bail amount to the town which jailed them, (using: /resident jail paybail)
  • they manage to escape the jail plot and the town and get into Wilderness.

• Jailed players cannot teleport.
• Jailed players cannot use Ender Pearls unless enabled in the config.
• Jailed players who die are sent back to their prescribed jail plot.
• Jailed players do not give monetary payouts when they are killed.
• Jailed players show their jailed status in the /res [playername] screen, along with the town they are jailed in.
• It is suggested you make a new town rank in the townyperms.yml called Sheriff, and give that rank the towny.command.town.toggle.jail node. Newly generated townyperms.yml files will contain this rank by default.

Suggestion: Add the sherriff rank only if suggestion 2 is added

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  Farms:
  Farm plots are designated with /plot set farm
  
  A Farm plot players to only build/destroy blocks designated in the Towny Config.yml at global_town_settings.farm_plot_allow_blocks. By default this list includes “LONG_GRASS, DOUBLE_PLANT, YELLOW_FLOWER, RED_ROSE, PUMPKIN_STEM, MELON_STEM, BEETROOT_BLOCK, CARROT, POTATO, CROPS, MELON_BLOCK, PUMPKIN”.
  
  Who can build/destroy these blocks is still determined by the plot’s perm line seen in the /plot perm screen. This means that if B=rao, anyone can plant/place the allowed blocks in the plot. If the B=r– then only town residents can plant/place the allowed blocks.
  
  If admins want, they can add SOIL to the allowed blocks list, which will allow anyone allowed via the perm line to also make soil with a hoe. By default SOIL is not included and only admins/mayors/assistants will be able to create soil with a hoe. Towny already protects soil from being stomped into grass, so soil will only return to dirt if it is not irrigated.
  
  Farm plots also allow town residents to kill animals in the plot. The list of animals is set in the config at global_town_settings.farm_animals. By default this list includes “PIG,COW,CHICKEN,SHEEP,MOOSHROOM”.
  
  Inn:
  Inn plots are designated with /plot set inn
  An Inn plot allows anyone to use a bed to set their ‘/res spawn’ and spawn on death. The Inn plot will still deny a player who is in a nation declared as an enemy by your nation.
  For them to function deny_bed_use: ‘true’ must be set in the config.yml
  

Suggestion 2: Add towny wars. I know, I know. No way, our towns will be destroyed blah blah blah. Here's my idea. In order to start a towny war, all the mayors AND co-mayors in each town must run a command to authorize the war. This will prevent unwanted wars and unwanted town destruction as the town staff will knowingly allow this. It is also recommended that the town asks its residents in case they wanna switch towns.

Also: I think this would attract a TON of New Players.

 

I don't want towny wars at all, I DON'T WANT MY HOME TO BE DESTROYED

 

Why would it?

 

@Draqq another smart man fancies towny wars. +1 for towny wars!

 

+1 if you don't want your home to be destroyed, you can move to a peaceful town

 

It won't be. Just convince your mayor not to start a war or move to a peaceful town

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I would join a towny wars server, but I'm loyal to meep.

 

This sounds really cool! I don't think it would draw in many new players though

 

Either way, it would be cool to have and it would give everyone something to look forward to!

 

+1


Now I can rule the world.

 

I think that towny wars sounds cool, but would need some good towns to start on it from the beginning. Most big towns are more worried about getting new players into their towns, so most towns would not switch over, making rewards low for other towns to switch to warring. Also, I believe factions is automatically denied for the same problem which towny wars would create: a community divide.

In summery, sounds fun, but won't work with the current server state or the desires of the Meepcraft staff.

 

Our community seems pretty divided right now even without any Towny wars..

What if there is a system where you can protect residential parts of town but not the outposts? Or, make other towns pay reparations to avoid destruction? Currently, our server seems a bit dull from the outside.

 

I like this idea.

Exactly why I'm proposing this

Maybe players could run a command that sort of temporarily protects or separates their plot from the town making it not damageable?

I like it.

We have about 50-70 active people. The most on at once is like 60. If no new players join and no new big amazing changes or additions happen soon, that number will slowly drop til it reaches the point where keeping the server open at all will be a waste of time. Don't tell me it will take a long time. Whether you like it or not, running a Minecraft server is a business. If Starbucks never introduced a new drink or changed their layout or updates their drinks, do you think they would be as popular as they are? No. They have to add new drinks all the time! They had the unicorn thing other crap... they literally even have a Pokemon go frap. Yea.
"What would you like to order, sir?"
"I'd like the Pokemon Go Frap please",
So yea. Big things take a lot of work and dedication. Sorry if I offended you in any way.

 

Towny wars arent fair. No matter how hard people try, big towns will always take the cake with their excessive amount of members.

Even frickin Smash Bros Brawl would be more balanced.

 

I can win a 3v1... so can Viper...and bloody...and boombox. It's not hard when you're outnumbered. Minecraft players are bad at teaming. 2v1s are only hard if they're both really good, in which case they can beat me solo. +1 for towny wars

 

Alright, you got a point, but how would the match-making process go? You can't just do a draw and put Legend against a dead town with only 3 residents.

 

Simple: Exclude legend. Peach and braveheart are almost the same, and all the other towns are similar sizes as well. Legend needs to be halved anyways. Maybe a town limit should be implemented...? 250 players max in one town?

 

Limiting towns would be one of the worst ideas ever implemented.

One of the central attractions of towns is there's not set goal, and the only limits is upkeep prices. By limiting the size of towns, you make it so there's a point when a town cannot grow any further, and instead the town staff can only maintain their limit rather grow. If that's the case, why bother playing in that town?

It reduces the work that people put into their towns because they constantly have to go and start new towns if they hit that limit. Towns like Legend, Peachstreet, and Braveheart all grow because of active staff and constant work. I speak from the perspective of building Legend from the ground up. If you trust what is shown in my stats menu, I alone have logged more than 60 days of playtime since the new towns world opened. Limiting what a town can do makes that work futile, because I can't build any further, and if I claim more land, I'm still not generating more income. As it stands right now, I pay 26k every single day out of my own pocket to maintain it already, and that's with 400. The overall upkeep in the town is already approaching 70,000, and most of that is from services that are provided to new players.

By adding a limit, Legend and other towns then have a limit to how much they can do. In a time when players constantly complain about boredom, limiting how far they can go is a horrible concept. Assuming the limit was set at 250, Peachstreet, Braveheart, and Legend would have all maxed out already (at peaks, Peachstreet hit 350, Braveheart 260, Legend 600).

So no, absolutely no, to limiting towns.

I've always supported the addition of towny wars. It would grant extended use to towns that provide another reason to do things in towns. Don't want to be the biggest town? Be the strongest instead.

However, I don't believe the server is currently at a place where such a system would be practical. Most of the current players do not PvP anymore due to the combat update. I'm not against adding Towny Wars at all, but I just don't believe Meepcraft's current capabilities warrant the development time that can be spent making things a larger percentage of players can enjoy.

 

I will fix this. 1.9 is good, just not in the same way. Minecraft pvp has always been OBJECTIVELY terrible, now it's bad in a different way.