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President Trump

Discussion in 'Debates' started by creepersareokay, Nov 8, 2016.

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How Will Trump Do In Office?

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  1. MeepLord27

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    ISIS is a present danger. Nazism isn't.
    Someone being a Nazi isn't harming anyone, why should we sacrifice our security to the government to solve a problem that isn't even there.
     
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    I'm not sure how prohibiting Nazi-ism is sacrificing our security, nobody's speech is being surpressed except that of Nazi's and screw them. There is nothing in their message Americans can't go and preach - They just couldn't do it using Nazi symboltry.

    In my opinion, ISIS is not a greater threat nor more imminent than Nazis, as we see both spreading throughout the world. Look at Europe, they are experiencing a rise in groups affiliating themselves with Nazis too.

    ISIS hasn't caused the destruction, nor do they have the potential to cause the damage Nazis literally have.
     
  3. CryogenicNewt05

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    In terms of how much controversy Trump has caused, screw him.
     
  4. jadenPete

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    Controversy is no reason to blame a person, can you back up your claim? Politics are always controversial.
     
  5. CryogenicNewt05

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    His border wall, anti pretty much everything you could think of, blame of both sides, you name it.
     
  6. jadenPete

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    First, what's bad about the wall? Also, could you provide some evidence that he is "anti pretty much everything?" And what do you mean by everything, because obviously he can't be literally against everything. And what about blaming both sides?
     
  7. Deinen

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    Well thus far all his blunders are explained with a best case scenario of "He's incompetent"

    Almost literally everyone he's hired now fired. Some positions have been fired multiple times.

    He has a communications director that drunk calls reporters and says the chief strategist, Bannon - Now fired, sucks his own ....

    He's failed on a promise to drain the swamp - Except all the people he's fired from his own cabinet

    His current chief of staff literally limits what Trump sees because he's an idiot.

    He spends more time on vacation on golf courses than doing his actual job

    He has been directly involved with nothing successful yet

    He consistently tells falsehoods

    The issue of the massive profit he is making from the office of the Presidency, directly profiting from government services.


    Could you name one good thing he has done for our country - Not a byproduct of him being President, but something he's directly been involved with and successfully accomplished.

    Why would this wall solve all the problems all of our other walls not solve? Plus it changed from a wall to a fence, essentially, that doesn't cover the entire border so there are points people will still cross. Not to mention the party and guy of small government has no issues taking land from a ton of people to build this fence.

    What prevents someone from just building a ladder or digging a hole? What prevents them from using the rivers or other water sources?

    The issue with "the" wall is that it is not nearly as effective as common sense and reasonable immigration laws/reform it's just a talking point to whip his overwhelmingly under-educated and gullible base up.

    Can you provide any reasons why this wall would be good?
     
  8. MeepLord27

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    Donald Trump is hiterally litler now. Arpaio needs to be put in prison.
     
  9. BlackJack

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    Like what? You name it.
     
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    Think of anything that's good for the country. He's going to be against it.
     
  11. MeepLord27

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    @CasualJaden what is your opinion on Trump pardoning Arpaio?
     
  12. Deinen

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    Was that trolling or serious? Heh, can't tell.

    But he's giving the pardon stuff a test drive, wonder why.
     
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    I seriously think its horrifying that he pardoned a government official who was ignoring citizens rights. Its mind boggling that lots of the 2nd amendment types who are all about how they need to keep the government in check aren't more worried about this. If Hillary had done anything remotely similar there would be armed militias shooting at cops.
     
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    I mean without comparing Trump to Hitler, Trump has made moves that are eerily similar to how authoritarian rulers do.
     
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    I want Jake to give me some specifics, not a low-effort "everything about him is bad" answer that everyone else gives.
     
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    its cuz he iz no libral demcrat theirfour he iz an bad
     
  17. MeepLord27

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    The democrats are rarely liberal
    liberalism is typically pro-free market
     
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    He seems like a good guy from what I've heard. I don't like how the media is twisting this to make it sound like he is targeting people of a specific race when the truth is that he was just enforcing our federal immigration law. With all the crimes committed by illegal aliens, I honor him for trying to keep our country safe from them. On top of that, he has served as an officer for more than 50 years, which definitely deserves some recognition. Our president tweeted that he was considering the pardon 11 days before it happened, so I know he took some time to consider and look into it, and didn't pardon him right away just because it agrees with his agenda.
     
  19. MeepLord27

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    Lets ignore the medias take and look at verifiable facts and work off those.
    Joe Arpaio randomly searched latino people without probable cause.
    The government must get probable cause to search you or take action against you. This is a right every american has.
    The government exists to protect peoples rights.
    Joe Arpaio used the governments authority to ignore peoples rights. Thus failing in his duty to the american people.
    A court rightfully told him to stop violating peoples rights.
    He ignored them.
    He wasn't being prosecuted for political reasons, he was being prosecuted for oppressing american citizens.
    Donald Trump pardoned him.
    Donald Trump effectively told people who wield the power of the government that they can ignore their citizens rights.
    This is why we have the second amendment. Someone would be 100% morally justified in shooting Arpaio if Arpaio tried to search them without probable cause. (Source: The Declaration Of Independence)
     
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    Lol I see only one claim in there, so let's work off that. Where's your evidence? Nearly all immigrants on our southern border are Latino, so are you sure he wasn't just targeting immigrants?
     

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