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President Trump

Discussion in 'Debates' started by creepersareokay, Nov 8, 2016.

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How Will Trump Do In Office?

  1. Good, mang

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  1. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Because Donald Trump is President and has shown massive nepotism.

    Hillary Clinton is not President, but if evidence is found she did something illegal then she certainly should face the charges that fit, absolutely.

    But you are not getting my point - Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort had a meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer while they were under the impression that she had damaging information on Clinton.

    Do you not get the seriousness of this? They literally colluded with not only a foreign government, but a foreign government who has been our adversary for decades and are actively trying to destabilize portions of the world.

    Not only this, but the information they were seeking would have been attained by the hacking Russian operatives did -- Hacking is a federal felony in America. The emails Jr. released have actually made a very strong argument for conspiracy of criminal intent -- Which is a very serious crime. They deny Trump knew about it but if history says anything that is a lie and very shortly we'll be seeing evidence of direct opposition to that claim.
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    Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton's email

    ....

    But he did.
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    PoorlyDrawnPolitics on Twitter

    Check this picture out, the woman in the middle with the phone staring at Ambassador McFaul's laptop screen is Natalia Veselnitskaya, the same Kremlin linked lawyer they had the meeting with.

    How did she just front-row seats?

    Michael McFaul on Twitter

    She was invited by Congressman Rohrabacher, also anti-sanctions.

    Where has this name come up before? Remember that little snippet of leaks audio from Paul Ryan?

    House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump

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    McCarthy: There’s…there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump…[laughter]…swear to God.

    Ryan: This is an off the record…[laughter]…NO LEAKS…[laughter]…alright?!
    "

    -- This was regarding a money laundering case suddenly dismissed, as well.

    Who was prosecuting this case?

    Well whaddya know, Preet Bharara - The same one oddly and quickly fired by Trump, before the case was dismissed.
     
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    @Deinen There is no nepotism in the Trump White House. That's simply a fact.

    I'm glad we can agree Hillary should be held accountable for her crimes.

    I don't believe that the Russians hacked us and if they did it certainly didn't happen due to Trump. I think @MeepLord27 had a good point. Why would Trump press Putin multiple times about the "hacking" and why would Putin get so angry that he was asking? Putin seemed fed up with it, on top of his interview he had about it.

    Of course you would bring up that video. You clearly don't know how to take a joke. He was making a funny reference about "If Russia was smart enough to 'hack our election' maybe they are smart enough to hack her emails and find them". I mean, haha okay move on. No where in that video did he seem legit or serious about that.

    I could careless about Paul Ryan. I don't like him.
     
  4. MeepLord27

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    Putin got angry? Can you send timestamps or link an article?
     
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  5. metr0n0me

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    But by your own logic, Hillary didn't commit any crime because she hasn't been proven guilty yet, I thought? Why is there a double-standard where you think Trump is completely innocent because he hasn't been proven guilty yet Clinton is guilty by default?


    Can you explain?

    How do you know he didn't?
     
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  6. Blue_Marlin

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    @MeepLord27 I shouldnt have said "Putin" himself but the Russians being accused of hacking. I can't believe I'm about to use CNN as a ref. 0.0
    Russia to US: Prove campaign hacking claims or shut up - CNN.com

    @metr0n0me She has been proven guilty! And she admitted to some of it! The emails? She admitted that! It's a no brainer she colluded with Ukraine.

    I don't know what you want me to explain about there being no nepotism in the Trump White House?

    Let me retract that statement. There is not 1 single piece of evidence and not 1 single piece of proof that Donald Trump and or his campaign committed any crime.
     
  7. MeepLord27

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    Link please.

    Did you read the emails?
     
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  8. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    Are you dense? Can you explain exactly what qualifications Ivanka Trump has which qualified her to sit in for her daddy at the G20 meeting?
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    Actually....

    52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

    There was intent to break this law, or rather, conspiracy of criminal intent.
     
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  10. Deljikho

    Deljikho Lazy Swami

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    So the fact that his son-in-law is a Senior White House Advisor, and that his daughter is Assistant to the President; even sitting in for him on world leader meetings rather than the VP or the Secretary of State. That's totally not nepotism right?

    What makes them qualified to hold those positions?
     
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    @MeepLord27 She herself admitted to the emails in the debates. Did you not watch them?

    @Deinen Okay, what qualifications does Donald Trump have to sit in the G20 summit?

    I posted a link talking about how it's not illegal. Here it is
    Alan Dershowitz: 'I don't see any crime' that Donald Trump Jr. committed

    @lfpnub no, I've watched the stupid video many times. Y'all have posted it like 3 times now. As I said before, he jokingly said "IF Russia hacked our election, maybe they can hack Hillarys emails and release them to the public". A JOKE! He actually laughed. So did the crowd. That wasn't him being serious. Good lord.
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    @Deljikho you should look up the definition of nepotism. It's not nepotism due to their job titles. Now if Ivanka Trump were let's say, Secretary of State or secretary of education. Then yes, that's nepotism. But family is 100% allowed to work as White House staff, and many Presidents including the Obama's and Clintons have had family work as White House staff.
     
  12. MeepLord27

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    I mean did you read Donald Trump JRs emails. I watched the debate, you don't need to convince me Hillary Clinton is corrupt.
     
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    Yes I read his emails. And I also watched a Lawyer talk about how he didn't do anything wrong. I'm no Lawyer so I can't say "yes or no" but I believe he made a mistake and admitted to it. A mistake that wasn't a crime though. I'm not going to say he is completely innocent in the matter but until he is proven guilty of crime, I'm leaving it as he's innocent.
     
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    I don't really care if it was illegal, I care if it undermines the security of the united states.
     
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    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    @MeepLord27 Oh come on. You know that these emails will effect nothing as far as security of America goes.

    @Deinen I don't feel any GOP member is a traitor. Just my opinion though.
     
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    I do, and not because I disagree with them. I can absolutely respect someone who truly and honestly acts in a way they think is best governance. The current GOP is not doing this, they are blatantly working to tear down institutions for political reasons, working to enrich themselves or allowing their own greed to blind them to actual threats against our countries.

    At the end of this debacle those who have served themselves and others against the interest of our nation need to be recognized as traitors and dealt with as a traitor, name by a rope and gallow
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    Senate Republicans exempt own health coverage from part of latest proposal

    Look at this, they are going to destroy healthcare for millions, but then exempt themselves?

    If their healthcare bill is good enough for the citizens of this country, their superiors, then why isn't it good for them?

    Traitors
     
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    Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton's emails from Russian hackers, committed suicide, records show
    Hillary Clintons been busy

    Is it really a big stretch to think they had a you scratch my back I scratch your back deal? It happens in politics all the time with lobbyists, I don't see why it couldn't happen with a foreign country that Donald Trump is clearly friendly with.
     
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    Former Soviet counterintelligence officer at meeting With Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer
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    New Report Claims Russian Lawyer Actually Did Bring Clinton Dirt Docs to Trump Jr. Meeting


    Traitor Ttump
     
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    Trump and his supporters:

    Trump and his cronies had NOTHING to do with Russia, everyone who said he did is LYING #fakenews #sad

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    Okay, maybe some of his staff had ties to Russia but they were 100% isolated incidents. Trump is all good.

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    Well okay, I suppose a lot of Trump's staff and allies had ties to Russia, but no harm done, right?

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    Okay I'll admit Trump himself worked with Russia, but that's not a bad thing, right? We can work together...what's wrong with Russia??

    What has my GOP become :(
     
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