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President Trump

Discussion in 'Debates' started by creepersareokay, Nov 8, 2016.

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How Will Trump Do In Office?

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  1. MeepLord27

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    What new evidence has come up that would warrant an investigation then?
     
  2. Deinen

    Deinen S'all Good Man

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    He admitted on national TV he fired Coney over the Russia thing?
     
  3. Blue_Marlin

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    Please post a link. I do not recall this ever happening and I do believe there were two letters of recommendation for firing Comey. One which was a two and a half page letter written by the guy above Comey. The way Comey handled the Clinton thing was unbelievably terrible and it shows he and Loretta Lynch are both incompetent for the job. You are supposed to play by the rules and be fair to each person no matter what their political views are.
     
  4. Deinen

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    Google his interview with Lester Holt it's there.

    Trump said he fired Comey over the Russian thing.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 13, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 13, 2017 ---
    On another note: what a special snowflake president.

    Trump blocks veterans group on Twitter
     
  5. WhoNeedsJimbo

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    You fool. Blue marlin is a divine god, nothing can stop him. If you disagree with him the slightest, he will zap your soul out of existence, and you will have to live all of your future lives as a plant.
     
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    @Deinen ive seen it and no that's false you are wrong again. He did not say he fired Comey over the Russian investigation. He did bring that up but the reason he gave for firing Comey is because he isn't competent for the job.

    @PixelPizza can you not?
     
  7. Deinen

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    "Mr Trump told NBC: "When I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won."

    He literally explained what he was thinking when he decided to do it.
     
  8. Blue_Marlin

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    Donald Trump did not like the way Comey was handling things. Starting with the Hillary investigation or according to Loretta Lynch "matter". The Russia investigation was another small part. He never said "the Russian investigation is the reason Comey was fired". This isn't even the first time a President has fired an FBI director. Bill Clinton fired his.
     
  9. Deljikho

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    Hopefully Trump continues going down the same road as Clinton :)

    #ImpeachTrump
     
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  11. Blue_Marlin

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    @Deljikho that won't happen and even if it did the great Mike Pence would become President and would "Make America Godly Again". People should be more scared of Mike Pence than Donald Trump. (I of course love them both).

    @metr0n0me what does that have to do with anything?
     
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  12. Deinen

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    Hey, @Blue_Marlin

    Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

    Trump is under investigation
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 14, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 14, 2017 ---
    Oh, apparently it's Trump's birthday today.

    @Blue_Marlin - No comment on how Trump is actually under investigation?

    I think you'd like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/...eakingNews&contentID=65438771&pgtype=Homepage

    "A former senior official said Mr. Mueller’s investigation was looking at money laundering by Trump associates. The suspicion is that any cooperation with Russian officials would most likely have been in exchange for some kind of financial payoff, and that there would have been an effort to hide the payments, probably by routing them through offshore banking centers."
     
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  13. Natsu

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    Happy birthday Trump, this thread is about to be 99 pages long
     
  14. Blue_Marlin

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    @Deinen when will you realize I'm not ignoring you I just don't sit on forums all day waiting on a response from you or anyone else. I get to it when I get to it.

    Now to rebuttal. "Obstruction of Justice". First off, it's pure bull crap and literally everyone knows it, except you apparently. All they have to do is look at the letters of recommendation Donald Trump received. It's not Treason, or anything bad. He fired his FBI director because he and Loretta Lynch both were incompetent.

    There is 0 evidence that Russia colluded with Trump to get him elected. There is 0 evidence Russia had any impact on the election. The Democrats can't accept a loss and are still crying about it. Republicans put up with the Obamas, they can put up with the great Trumps.

    Look what the Trump family has done for people even before the election. Look what the Obamas have done for people. They don't even compare because the Trumps put more not just money but time and labor into helping others and society. You can compare that to the Clintons as well.
     
  15. Deljikho

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    I agree, all that time he spends golfing and not in the white house really does help us. I seriously want him away from his desk as much as possible.

    We finally found some common ground.
     
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    I was referencing his life, his families life and that kind of aspect. He has done more for his people in his life time than any of the Obamas or Clintons have in theirs combined. And that excludes just donating money.

    Trump has done a lot, is doing a lot and will do a lot as President and will continue to make America what it should be and what it once was again. In my opinion and in many others opinion he has done so much for America. For the better.
     
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    Well, not 0 evidence. I mean he did literally say on national TV he fired Coney because of Russia. He just said he wouldn't rule out firing Mueller, and he did ask intelligence chiefs to intervene in the investigation.

    Can you cite anything he's done for the people?
     
  18. Blue_Marlin

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    Because the Russian thing is a joke. And that's not the only reason he was fired on top of the fact that it's not Comey investigating the Russian thing but the way he is doing it.

    There is 0 evidence he worked with Russia to get elected. What you just said is not evidence.

    You seriously think he hasn't done anything for the people? It's stupid that I'm even having to answer this question.

    1.) within the first 3 months of office over half a million jobs were created.
    2.) The lobbying ban.
    3.)attempting/cut sanctuary city funding.
    4.) repealed and replaced Obamacare.
    5.)The pipelines (which will create more jobs).

    These are only 5 things he has done to help America and its people. Maybe you should start using your brain. Not liking someone and or supporting them is one thing but don't act like he is some devil worshiping horrible person. He cares about this country and so do the people working with him.
     
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    1. He didn't create any jobs, especially in three months. Those jobs came for a lot of reasons that were years in the making.

    2. What lobbying ban? He has given ethic waivers to most of his team so the ban doesn't apply to them. His ban is more lenient than the ban Obama set, and even now people in his transition team affected by the ban are working as lobbyists.

    3. Isn't this the opposite of what republicans stand for? The fed coming in and dictating what localities must do? Can you provide any evidence saying cities are responsible for upholding federal laws?

    4. Obama care hasn't been repealed, or replaced.

    5. You mean the pipeline a judge just ordered stopped??

    Got any more real examples?



    Trump literally said he fired Comey partly because of the Russia investigation. That is literal evidence of obstruction. I'm not saying he is guilty, but his actions don't paint an innocent look.

    If he hasn't worked with Russia, why have so many members of his administration met with Russians and then lied about it. Look at Sessions just yesterday, he said there wasn't anymore meetings with Russians, and today a literal Russian lobbyist confirms Sessions invited him to a private dinner multiple times.

    You can't think that Mueller is a partisan hack, he led the FBI for decades under administration's of both parties. Look at the team he hired, experts in financial crimes and mob/racketeering crimes. Why is a straight laced gumshoe old school FBI man seriously looking into these things if literally nothing happened?
     
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  20. Deljikho

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    Here are president Trump's legislative accomplishments.

    They can be categorized into: A - minor inconsequential garbage, B - handouts to oil and gas, C - minor procedural changes mainly to undo Obama-era federal rules, D - handouts to private industries, E - useful legislation, and F - laws that screw the citizens of the United States

    • June 6, 2017: H.R. 375 - Named a courthouse the “Fred D. Thompson Federal Building and United States Courthouse”. (A)
    • June 6, 2017: H.R. 366 - Updated the DHS vehicle fleet allocation methodology (how DHS assigns cars to its personnel) (C)
    • June 2, 2017: S. 583 - Law to setup a small grant fund to hire veterans as law enforcement officers (A)
    • June 2, 2017: S. 419 - Tweaks how public safety officers can claim disability and other benefits (C)
    • May 17, 2017: H.J.Res. 66 - Terminated rules that allowed states to have public retirement plans that would benefit workers by being better than private plans (D)
    • May 16, 2017: H.R. 274 - Allows government employees to use Uber and Lyft (C)
    • May 12, 2017: S. 496 - Undid a federal rule about the alignment of planning regulations (C)
    • May 8, 2017: H.R. 534 - U.S. Wants to Compete for a World Expo Act (A)
    • May 5, 2017: H.R. 244 - The budget, to narrowly avoid a shutdown (E)
    • April 28, 2017: H.J.Res. 99 - Kicking the budget can down the road (E)
    • April 19, 2017: S.J.Res. 36 - Appointed a person to the Smithsonian Institution (A)
    • April 19, 2017: S.J.Res. 35 - Appointed a person to the Smithsonian Institution (A)
    • April 19, 2017: S.J.Res. 30 - Appointed a person to the Smithsonian Institution (A)
    • April 19, 2017: S. 544 - Extended the termination date for the Veterans Choice Program (E)
    • April 18, 2017: H.R. 353 - Required NOAA to give money to the private sector for weather forcasting, so the private sector can then charge for that information (D)
    • April 13, 2017: H.J.Res. 67 - Terminated rules that allowed states to have public retirement plans that would benefit workers by being better than private plans (F)
    • April 13, 2017: H.J.Res. 43 - Allows employers to not provide family planning coverage, because Jesus says NO! (F)
    • April 3, 2017: S.J.Res. 34 - Allows the sale of your internet browsing history (F)
    • April 3, 2017: H.R. 1228 - Modified the terms of service of the Board of Directors of the Office of Compliance (C)
    • April 3, 2017: H.J.Res. 83, Undid a rule that stated it is an ongoing requirement that employers actually report workplace injuries (D)
    • April 3, 2017: H.J.Res. 69, Undid a rule that stated that the Fish and Wildlife service can restrict commercial fishing in Alaskan Wildlife Refuges (D)
    • March 31, 2017: S.J.Res.1 - Useless feel-good commemoration of veterans of Desert Storm or Operation Desert Shield. (A)
    • March 31, 2017: H.R.1362 - Renamed an outpatient clinic in Pago Pago, American Samoa, the Faleomavaega Eni Fa'aua'a Hunkin VA Clinic. (A)
    • March 31, 2017: H.J.Res.42 - Undid a rule that stated that states can only do employee drug testing in appropriate fields (F)
    • March 28, 2017: S. 305 - Vietnam War Veterans Recognition Act of 2017 (A)
    • March 27, 2017: H.J.Res.57 - Undid a rule that requires states to have an accountability program for measuring school quality (F)
    • March 27, 2017: H.J. Res. 58 - Undid a rule that requires that states actually require that teachers be qualified to do their job (F)
    • March 27, 2017: H.J. Res. 44 - Opened previously-protected public lands to mineral exploitation by private companies (B)
    • March 27, 2017: H.J. Res. 37 - Undid a rule requiring that NASA contractors document their compliance with federal labor laws (D)
    • March 21, 2017: S.442 - Tweaked some NASA rules and regulations regarding the use of commercial spaceflight providers and the acquisition of foreign services (D)
    • March 13, 2017: H.R.609 - Renamed Department of Veterans Affairs health care center in Center Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania, as the "Abie Abraham VA Clinic". (A)
    • February 28, 2017: H.R. 321 - Inspiring the Next Space Pioneers, Innovators, Researchers, and Explorers (INSPIRE) Women Act (E)
    • February 28, 2017: H.R. 255 - Promoting Women in Entrepreneurship Act (E)
    • February 28, 2017: H.J.Res. 40 - Undid a law that forced oil and gas companies to disclose payments to politicians. (B)
    • February 16, 2017: H.J.Res.38 - Undid a law that required oil and gas companies to disclose what chemicals they were dumping in public waterways (B)
    • February 14, 2017: H.J.Res.41 - Undid a law that forced oil and gas companies to disclose payments to politicians. (B)
    • January 31, 2017: H.R.72 - GAO Access and Oversight Act of 2017 (E)
    • January 20, 2017: S.84 - A bill allowing Mattis to be Secretary of Defense (E)
    Minor inconsequential garbage: 10

    Handouts to oil and gas: 4

    Minor procedural changes: 5

    Handouts to private industries: 6

    Useful legislation: 7

    Laws that directly screw the citizens of the United States: 6

    Many category B, C, and D laws also screw the citizens of the United States.

    Credit to u/cryptovariable
     

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