Actual question for you meepcrafters

that is quite literally what I said

 

I was mostly just responding to your "Manipulate the public into thinking you're happy" point, whatever that means. I'm pretty sure everyone is chill with Klutch even though he makes no effort to be in good moods

You can be a grump and still be accepted, positivity doesn't mean anything you just need to get the job done

 

Get out

 

When the application process is entirely dependent on how the current team feels about you, you're naturally going to get people on the team who all have the same personality.

I don't think VKL should be helper quite yet, but I would have preferred him over yet another happy-go-lucky schmuck who just blindly obeys orders.

In my experiences in staff, spider and I were anomalies in that we rarely behaved like the other staff, but we were quickly ostracized for being different by staff and community alike. It's no wonder why these staff all seem generic clones of themselves.

 

Alright fine 7ace ill apply again jesus

 

Maybe because he's been duping

 

At least I didnt leak staff chat smh

 

I never did and that's why I'm still on the team.

 

I bought your head for 70k that i duped. Sure as hell wasn't even worth 10k LOL

 

I don't care about the worth of my head or how many people have them. 95k for nothing just sounded nice.

 

85k

 

EllieEllie is by far the nicest staff member i have seen on meep...... (until she banned me)

 

ill unban you, i'll be the nicest staff member

 

actually cant tell if thread troll or serious question

 

yes, then you would be

 

So take this with a huge (I mean, seriously massive) grain of salt since I really haven't been all that active in more than a year. I have no real clue how things happen around here anymore, and I know very little about those currently on the team. I'm just speaking from experience from when I was staff and what I went through to get it.

First of all, I like VKL (despite pronouncing his name wrong as Vay-Kay-El the entire time I've know him). Even when I was staff, I genuinely liked him as a person - but just because you may or may not like someone as a person when you're staff, doesn't mean you'll accept or deny them based on that. Plenty of people I disliked or didn't want as staff got into it when I was a staff member, and many people I liked or thought would make good staff didn't. It's 100% a group staff decision, no one or two people make it which is something you have to keep in mind.

I don't know what he's like anymore, but like all people do, I'm sure he has matured. Heck, when I was still staff a year ago, I felt with a little bit more shaping up, VKL could be an extremely good staff member.

But I know from personal experience that VKL has a very, very steep uphill battle in which he has to push a huge boulder three times his size up this extremely steep hill. Analogies aside, he is the most infamous player on Meep. He's been infamous for his countless bans since before I joined in 2012. He has a history of ignoring staff and breaking rules.

As someone who had a much less known history of ignoring and fighting staff when I applied for staff, I also had an uphill battle. I had to prove that I was no longer the person I was when I was constantly fighting and being a bother to the staff at the time.

VKL needs to very, very clearly prove that he doesn't intend to continue with the things he's so notorious for. He needs to spend a ton of time and energy proving this, as I'm sure he already has to a point, to even be considered as someone who could uphold the rules he so often broke. And honestly, it's possible that the mistakes he's made are ones that he can never come back with. It's unlikely, but possible.

I guess the TL: DR; to take away from this is that becoming part of the staff team, at least in my opinion, shouldn't be about diversifying personalities or having people who fight against authority. It's about having mature people, who are good role models, know the rules, can help out, and all around have the self-awareness and responsibility to know when to press back and when to bend. And honestly, I think your post makes the point that while VKL knows when to press back, he's not quite able to bend when needed yet.

In the end, it's also up to the staff team. As a casual player now, I trust the judgement of those who are in power to promote the people who fit the most with the values they uphold and with what their team needs. Apparently, at this time, that person is not VKL.

- Just the 2¢ of a previous staff member, like I said take it with a grain of salt because it's been awhile since I've been here.

 

Finally, someone else.

 

Hah wow, really? I always thought I was the only one, I've been doing it for years. It just sounds better! Vee-Kay-El sounds silly imho.

 

I can't say that I acted apart from anyone else. I did my best to be enthusiastic, friendly, and generally be the best helper I could have been. Never in a million years would it make sense to demote me for ditching staff responsibilities in order to make money. I loved being staff and had a good time in the short tenure I had as a member of the team.

You are saying that like they would have known what he had been doing. Only several days after his denial was the duping discovered.

Actually, you're back on the team because they felt it was unprofessional to handle the situation like they did. It was Pebbles all over again, they couldn't decide on whether or not to demote you and eventually decided to be lax on it. But it certainly is strange that somehow your best buddy Alexa was also demoted for leaking staff chat.

Regardless of the inevitable flame war, I guess my point on VKL, and contribution to the thread, is the fact that no one changes in a few months after several years of misbehaviour and general troublemaking. He had the worst ban history of any member on the server. I am still surprised that with the language he used in private, no one thought that maybe, just maybe, he was just hiding the attitude a little better. Swearing at people in shout, even behind a censor, didn't tip anyone off?

People don't really mature that much in a few months, especially with such a history. They just learn how to hide it better.

 

I used to avoid saying his name in TS because I always said "vay" out of habit.