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Global Warming?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by metr0n0me, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. Blue_Marlin

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    yes Deinen, they all die. That's why we don't have dolphins anymore, that's why we don't have sharks, that's why we don't have turtles and everything else. If they keep dying off we will have no sea animals.
     
  2. Erebus45

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    Sea turtles and several types of sharks are endangered though.
     
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  3. Blue_Marlin

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    The largest cause of them dying is getting caught in fishing gear and or birds eating their eggs. Not because of carbon in the water. That's been there for a long time. As I said, the hottest temperature was recorded 100 years ago. Where's global warming at?
     
  4. Deinen

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    Wait, I'd like to see your explanation about the carbon yet.

    Carbon traps heat.

    We put carbon in the air.

    Remember, I cited you quite a few articles all saying that these last three years, Earth is the hottest overall than it's ever been. I'm not entirely sure why "Global Warming" was the keyword to argue about because it implies something that isn't directly happening, not everything is uniformally getting warmer. But climate change is occurring and it's raising temperatures on a global scale, and it's not completely natural.
     
  5. Blue_Marlin

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    Yes it is natural. The Earth goes through global warming and global cooling. This has happened before.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 2, 2017, Original Post Date: May 2, 2017 ---
    I believe in global warming as it used to be, I do not believe in global warming like it is defined as today.
     
  6. Deinen

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    But carbon traps heat.

    We put carbon in the atmosphere.
     
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  7. Blue_Marlin

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    Carbon does go into space, Carbon gets sucked into oceans, carbon is turned into oxygen by trees. Stop cutting down our trees and we will be okay.

    The Earths hottest average temperature was 94° in the 60's today its 59°. Global warming caused that right?
     
  8. Deinen

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    Can you cite anything to back up the claim that the carbon gets sucked into space and how much of it? The source I cited said 26% to ocean/28% to tree, leaving 46% into the atmosphere. You need to show space vacuums out that 46% otherwise

    Carbon traps heat

    We put carbon into the atmosphere
     
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  9. Ranger0203

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    It isn't; just since they've been keeping records, if even that. Earth has been much hotter and much colder than it is now (on the cool side of the spectrum, I think)
    --- Double Post Merged, May 3, 2017, Original Post Date: May 3, 2017 ---
    Um... No. Global temperatures do not swing 35 degrees. Tell me where you got this please.
     
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  10. Blue_Marlin

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    Thats not what I meant. Im saying that Earths average temperature is around 59 degrees but in the 60's it reached to 94 degrees. Like in 1913 when the hottest temperature was 134 degrees but hasn't been that hot in 100 years.
     
  11. Ranger0203

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    When it comes to CO2, we have a good amount of wiggle room:
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    --- Double Post Merged, May 3, 2017, Original Post Date: May 3, 2017 ---
    Temperatures from individual areas don't mean much in this discussion because they can vary so much from the overall temp. of the planet.
     
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  12. Blue_Marlin

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    Right, but what I'm saying is Global Warming doesnt exist (like they say it does today) because for instance in 1913 the hottest temperature recorded was 134 degrees, it hasn't been that hot in 100 years so did global warming cause the temperatures to drop? Also, Im saying that the Earths average temperature hit its hottest average in the 60's, did global warming cause the average temperature to drop?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 3, 2017, Original Post Date: May 3, 2017 ---
    My questions are rhetorical.
     
  13. Ranger0203

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    It's pretty much universally agreed by everybody (even those who don't believe in human-caused global warming) that the planet is warming...

    "Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the 2013 summary report)"

    Basically the debate is over 1) whether or not it's human caused and 2) whether or not it will be massively destructive or not.
     
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  14. Blue_Marlin

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    The Earth always warms and cools. That is why I say I believe in the old global warming not the new global warming. We have global warming and cooling I just don't believe in the new definition of it.
     
  15. Ranger0203

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    Really what people are talking about is how fast it has been warming recently. Some think it's unusual, and some don't.
     
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    To be honest, I think we could just leave it at that.
    Excellently said.
     
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  17. metr0n0me

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    This doesn't quite seem right.
     
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  18. Blue_Marlin

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    google it? maybe?
     
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  19. metr0n0me

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    While there are still cold winters in some places, the overall trend is that global temperature is increasing.

    Here (click me) is a graph that shows the trend of the temperature increases of the past 130 or so years, with the y-axis being the difference between any given year's temperature and the 130-year mean, and the x-axis being the years. You can obviously see that the temperature is increasing.

    About Death Valley: last June was the hottest June on record at Death Valley (source).

    And whoever took the measurement in 1913 screwed up, because that record temperature was impossible given the meterological phenomena at the time (source). So Death Valley actually didn't get that hot.
    --- Double Post Merged, May 3, 2017, Original Post Date: May 3, 2017 ---
    Also, what's your deal with the 134 F measurement?

    Like I said, that probably was the result of an incorrect or nonstandard measurement, and the temperature didn't even reach 134 F. But for the sake of this post, let's say it did.

    In 1914 or whenever the measurement was taken, one freak heat wave caused the high temperatures. However, the rest of the year was much colder. Nowadays, the average temperature is much higher, but maybe it hasn't quite gotten as hot as 134 F (remember in 1914 it didn't actually get this hot).

    Imagine a place where the whole year the high temperature is 50°. Except one day, the high temperature goes up to 85°. Now imagine the same place 100 years later, where every single day the high temperature is 80°. When is it warmer?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 3, 2017 ---
    I can't find anything
     
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  20. Blue_Marlin

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    The Earth goes through global cooling and warming. I have said many times that I believe in the old global warming not the new global warming. That chart is showing us coming out of global cooling and going into global warming.

    Are you saying they didn't have thermometers back then?


    So because you don't believe it, it was an incorrect measurement. This is what I mean by the lefts views... the right will never win.
     

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