Abortion

Have you ever actually talked to people that won't have premarital sex? It's not usually for the risk of getting pregnant. Instead, it's normally always for religious reasons.

 

But when you get laid, you're assuming the risk of the girl getting pregnant. I get that having sex is fun, but having a baby is a natural result of having sex. Therefore it's irresponsible to have sex without being ready to assume the responsibility of a kid (even though as you mention the risk of actually having a kid while using contraceptives is small).

So is a kid that's breastfeeding practically the mother too? It feeds off the mother as well. If not, where do you draw the line between a baby and a fetus?

I think this is one of those debates where it's hard to argue one way or another. A lot of people would say that life begins at conception and as such it's immoral to abort a fetus after it's been conceived. And obviously a lot of people would think differently. Where you draw the line between baby and fetus is entirely up to people to decide, and it's really difficult to argue one way or another without the argument devolving into simply stating your beliefs without justification.

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So you agree that getting an abortion ends a potential life, then, correct?

 

Yes, for religion. Due to religion you aren't supposed to have a baby out of wedlock!?!?

@Courtneyyy Question! I feel like you are taking the fathers rights away!? Can you clarify? If a woman has the right to an abortion she can get the abortion. If a woman wants to keep it the father is "stuck with it" (even if the father can't afford to take care of it he is forced too because she wants to keep it, but if the mother can't afford it/ doesn't want to them she can get rid of it). What if the dad wants her to carry it? What if the dad wants her to abort it? Sounds to me like women want to be "equal" as man but this right here isn't a very "equal" conversation. Unless you just want the same paycheck as me? (Don't get me wrong, I'm for equal work for equal pay. I think we're all human and deserve what we deserve based on skill, education and what not no matter the gender.

 

Although I do not agree with abortion, @Courtneyyy I appreciate the fact that you said "She would be a single parent" if he wanted her to abort it and she refused. Even though I personally would never leave a girl on her own to raise a child that I helped create. However, I strongly disagree with you on the point that "He has no say so in the abortion itself". Me as a male and has someone who wants kids. If I get a girl pregnant and she wants to abort it, how would I be a father? (Yes I know adoption and or find another girl) but had no say so in what happened to my child. I disagree with that.

 

I think she means if the guy wants an abortion but the girl doesn't, there will be no abortion because the girl is carrying the baby, not the guy--so it's her choice to makecc

 

@metr0n0me I understand that, I'm simply saying. If the man doesn't want his whoever to get an abortion then she shouldn't be able to get one without a valid reason. Such as personal death.

 

It can after a certain point, but as hillary clinton has stated its a woman right to get an abortion right up until the baby is on the outside.

Its a fetus, and its much more like a parasite. Wether you like it or not, you can't kill someone just because you are irresponsible.

Actually I prefer to call them all dishwashers, but whatever you want.

 

You could become a pretty sucessful writer for breitbart.

 

1. Condoms are a great plan. If that fails, and Plan B doesn't work, I would NEVER expect a 16 year old girl to go through pregnancy. If you are a kid and you get pregnant, your life is over. You can't go to school and get a good job. An abortion stops that if it is the case.

2. There is no specific answer to when it is a kid or not. Obviously a child about to be born is a child, but nobody would let a baby grow that much if they were planning on aborting it. At that point, yes, that should be illegal.

3. Glad you agree.

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Very good point. It is definitely her option, but I can tell you every girl I've been with has not wanted a child.

 

Im glad you brought this up!

lmaooooo

Ann Coulter writes for them. Pretty reliable.

If my 16 year old daughter is out having sex, getting pregnant is the least of her worries.

Its known as a child when you pee on the stick and it says "your pregnant".

Maybe we should allow the baby to decide? Ask him whens s/he is around 12 maybe? thats a good age.

 

There is a difference between the child being 12 and when it is inside the woman. Will it be a human? Yes. But if you cannot take care of the baby, that is not your responsibility.

What should the couple do if they are young and did not mean to have a child? What if the girl does not want to go through pregnancy due to the devastating effects before pregnancy and after pregnancy, regardless if they put the child up for adoption. The kids are SCREWED because they have a child to take care of and no money/time. The child will have a TERRIBLE childhood and most likely will be depressed through his or her life. You cannot expect people not to have sex if they aren't ready to have a child, that's just unrealistic.

 

I can expect them not to have sex. At 18 right now I do not want to have a child. If i get a girl pregnant right now I will do everything I can do to take care of my mistake.
You get drunk and drive, cause an accident ----> pay for the consequence
You smoke weed and become an idiot ---> pay for the consequence
You have sex ----> you get a baby / pay for the consequence.

No one promised you an easy life, Sometimes you get dealt the poopie hand. Deal with it.

 

But if the woman wants to abort the child? That is HER CHOICE.

Btw nice job with the weed insult. Totally was a coincidence.

 

Nope.
You don't make decisions for other people.

 

Hell, why don't we allow mothers to abort a 5 year old when they get tired of raising the child? seems legit.

You are not a person, you have no rights. The left will make all the decisions. We rule under them or they will cry until they get their way.

 

You should read up on straw man arguments.

Are you saying that because the fetus isn't making the decision to be aborted, that the abortion is wrong?

 

Yes.
I support medically assisted suicide, which is essentially what abortion is, the key difference being one is where the person being killed DECIDES TO BE KILLED.

I thought you liberals would be all about consent.

 

@cnkropp I'm simply saying. Don't get pregnant if you don't want a baby. If you have sex you are opening your chances to get pregnant. Don't drink alcohol if you don't want to get drunk?