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bathroom policy

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Piper N, Mar 4, 2017.

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how should transgenders be treated/ bathroom policy

  1. how you self identify

    52.8%
  2. your given gender

    47.2%
  1. Blue_Marlin

    Blue_Marlin Popular Meeper

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    I wasn't even being passive aggressive with you? Wtf?
    Again, what have I tried saying this entire time? I DO NOT CARE IF A TRANS PERSON GOES INTO A BATHROOM OF THE SEX THEY ARE TRYING TO BE!!!!! I do however have an issue with the people who "self identify" as a female when they are clearly a male.

    No, it wouldn't be logical for them to just "get over themselves"

    I haven't changed my argument? lol what? I think I've made it pretty clear,
     
  2. Muunkee

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    If you haven't changed your arguments, then multiple people would not be saying that you were.
     
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  3. Deinen

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    Why wouldn't it be the most logical for the people who have this fear over a non-existent issue to get over their issue?
     
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  4. Blue_Marlin

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    I'm not the one changing my argument, y'all are. lol I've said the same thing over and over. It somehow keeps being changed.

    We're taking away the rights of some to please others.
     
  5. 7acespade

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    I'm confused.

    I dont see why nowadays people need to change their gender to express who they are. For cisgendered people, our gender rarely crosses our minds. If we were to make a major lifestyle we'd do it without even thinking of our gender. So why are people finding it necessary to change their gender to express how they feel?

    I cant help but think that people who identify as something they're biologically not are needlessly fixating on their gender. Changing your gender means absolutely nothing, coupled with the fact that our society is trying to crush gender roles. If someone feels like they NEED to change their gender and feel restless in a body that isn't their preferred gender, then their condition is evolving into a mental illness, no different than someone who doesn't feel comfortable with two arms and wants one cut off. I believe this entire thing is a movement that stems from young people trying to find their place in the world and wanting to be different from anyone else.

    Go to any bathroom, I dont care, I will tolerate your right to do so
     
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  6. Muunkee

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    we're not taking anyone's rights, we're making you wait 2 minutes if you feel uncomfortable
    oh no
     
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  7. Blue_Marlin

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    I agreed with literally everything you said until that last weeeeeee little bit at the bottom. No matter what stats you show me and or facts I don't care, I will never feel comfortable sending my child or wife into a bathroom with a "self identified" female.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 15, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 15, 2017 ---
    You take away the right of people being able to be comfortable in a bathroom and pee without hesitation so the "people who don't want to be what they were born to be" can feel "equal" to the other human beings.
     
  8. Deinen

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    Comfort going to the bathroom isn't a right. Comfort isn't even a consideration for either side. The issue is creating legislation to criminalize behavior under the guise of solving a problem that doesn't exist nor ever has existed. The issue is trying to criminalize people's behavior because of your feelings and beliefs.
     
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  9. Muunkee

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    They are equal human beings? Because they are human?
    Incredibly unlikely situation to happen in your real life that's over in 2 minutes if it does happen?

    This just seems like in incredible overreaction IMO
     
  10. 7acespade

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    I cant agree enough.
     
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  11. Blue_Marlin

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    Never said they weren't human beings @Muunkee, right here is an example as to how my words get changed. @Deinen it is your right to go into the bathroom and expect to see only the sex of which bathroom you are in.
     
  12. Deinen

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    Nope, you're wrong, it isn't a right of anykind.
     
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  13. Blue_Marlin

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    Well it is, it violates your civil rights. Look up the North Carolina case.
     
  14. Deinen

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    More specific? The one that shot the law down multiple times due to unconstitutionality, and the Supreme Court rejected hearing the case?
     
  15. WeAreNumberUno

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    Which ones?
     
  16. Blue_Marlin

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    No the one that the justice departments civil rights department wrote the North Carolina governor a letter saying to abandon it or risk loosing federal funding.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 15, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 15, 2017 ---
    Seriously?
     
  17. WeAreNumberUno

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    Yes.
    Which rights does it violate.
     
  18. Blue_Marlin

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    lol your civil rights, do you know what that is? Within that it talks about your safety.
     
  19. WeAreNumberUno

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    WICH ONE! ARE YOU THICK! WHICH RIGHT SPECIFICALLY! THE RIGHT TO LIFE THE RIGHT TO PROPERTY ETC ETC ETC
     
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  20. Blue_Marlin

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    Calm down there little buddy. And the answer to that is public safety.
     

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