Problems + Potential Solutions

Please don't just deny this, I want to hear reasoning against it first so that we can have a civilized discussion or debate if need be.

Problem: I see no point in having a system which means players have to swap between jobs (and with current bugs, lose all their levels). Players can freely swap between jobs anyway, which means that having to swap is literally just more off-putting, unnecessary effort.
Solution: Have no selectable jobs, instead opt to have every player in every job.

Problem: I can only join on SquidHQ, which if it's a widespread problem means new players will have a hard time joining. Trying to join on the default MC launcher makes my game crash.\
Solution: Dunno, something involving some magic coding language that I don't speak.

Problem: New players joining and quickly figuring out there are very few fun or quick ways to make $$$ is just blatantly off-putting. Not good if we're trying to increase the player base.
Solution: Add a message when new players join teaching them saying in big, bold, obvious text something along the lines of 'You've been given $5000 (yes this probably needs a buff) meebles to get you started! Read the tutorial to learn how to make more!' Which brings me to my next point.

Problem: We don't have a tutorial.
Solution: Add a tutorial. Keep it simple. Teach players how to get to towns, get to the wild, make money, and join a town. We don't need a billion signs trying to spontaneously instil morals and ethics into new players. If they have had any form of a half decent upbringing, they should know not to cuss, advertise, etc. anyway.

Problem: Ranks aren't worth the money.
Solution: Rank prices should be lessened, $320 for a rank is outrageous and an unrealistic ask for most younger players (which constitute the majority of our community). This is especially relevant now that the EULA has been enforced and perks have been made dramatically less useful.

Problem: Not quite sure what's going on with creative plots and why I can claim five but the majority of other players can only claim one.
Solution: I'd say either give players larger plots or allow players to claim at least four plots (which can be /plot merge'd).

Problem: Donor shop is just weird at the moment.
Solution: Add items that would actually be useful. Before the reset I used the grappling hook constantly and the glass pick was incredibly useful.
-No one's going to pay 400k for an end portal frame when they can just just buy a tpa in for 10k or more likely, free. Remove.
-Due to the slightly unnatural amount of thunderstorms recently, skeleton horse eggs certainly aren't worth 100k. Remove.
-I have a thing for baby polar bears, so I'd love to see polar bear eggs in the shop. Add.
-Elytras. I also have a thing for getting high and jumping off tall things. Add.

Problem: Minigames seem overvalued in the scheme of the whole server.
Solution: Focus mainly on towny, and if minigames are to be re-added, make them simple ones that don't require large amounts of players (because we don't have large amounts of players).

Problem: I'm running out of stuff to complain about.
Solution: Admit to myself that this reset was a great thing on the whole, and that I appreciate all the hard work that @KlutchDecals (in particular) and the rest of the staff team are putting in to making this server better every day.
-Loved the jobs buffs on the most part
-Loved seeing all those pesky bugs get squashed
-Loved seeing the upkeep prices lowered back to normal, allowing players to enjoy having giant (and occasionally aesthetic) towns without having to worry about huge upkeeps.

Discuss. pls

xoxo,achemd

 

I would prefer that Elytras be rather rare, just for the exclusivity of it. It's almost a status symbol, not unlike Dragon Eggs.

 

Tell that to Epixaid. Somehow whipping up billions of them and selling them for dirt cheap.

 

Meepcraft is blacklisted, which is the main reason why players can't use the default launcher and need to use SquidHQ to join.

 

Yeah ik it's Blacklisted. It just doesn't seem very viable trying to expand our player base on some third party launcher which the vast majority of players don't use. I wasn't sure if it was just me or if it was everyone, which is why I said 'if it's a widespread problem'.

 

As much as I enjoy having many of the original non-EULA compliant perks back, they also make it not possible to fix this, unless staff can find a dependable loophole to the regular launcher. It's a trade-off between keeping current players happy with their perks and making it easier for more new players to join the server.

 

Uhh? I use the normal launcher, and I have no problems with joining the server. I am using Windows 8.1 if that has anything to say.

Also, I agree to a lot of this. Though I must say, that I think BlackJack is right, we don't really need elytras in the donor shop. However, adding useful items to it would be very good.

Kind regards,
Jakob

 

It's only a problem for some people. Doesn't affect the majority.

Jobs: +1 there is no reason why we shouldn't. Maybe bring back how you need ranks to do multiple jobs.

Tutorial: +1 no one wants to go through papers at /help . Remember that the majority of our players are kids and no one will check all of /help . We should definitely bring tutorial back. In addition, give people $500 at the start and $2000 when they complete tutorial.

Ranks: -1 they are higher than normal servers, which encourages rank selling as people like me can't afford it with irl money and other people can sell and stimulate the economy by selling ranks and donatong more to the server. We should increase perks instead of lowering our donations.

Creative: +1 why not!

Donor shop: +1 please bring back the items that are actually useful and let some money go back to the server. I'd love to see Bush back again

Minigames: -1 I'd love Halo back and players love boomo and CTF. Less rewards? Sure.

Overall your suggestion is point on, @Achmed

 

Creative plots should definitely be way bigger. I also agree on the mini game solution spleef and cookie clicker were fun. Also, BRING BACK THE TUTORIAL. I also agree with you on most of the shop changes except for elytra. Maybe we could put up a tutorial on the forums teaching people how to setup and connect with SquidHQ.

 

Update your sig bro lol, nobody knows who bjm5 is anymore

 

You will always be BlackJackMiller5 to me bby ❤

 

Sort of, I'd say +1 to be able to join 1 or 2 extra jobs per rank to make it easier and give out a new perk. Because new perks are great.

+1 to both of these, but I offer a different idea
Start players out with 500 meebles
spawn them in tutorial so the first lines they see are:
"Use /g for global chat and /help for useful information!"
"You have $500 meebles to start off!"
"Follow the tutorial to earn a bonus 2500!"
This buffs new players starters by 500 meebles so its an even 3K, and players who leave immediately don't spawn in as much.
Giant +1 for the tutorial, but really simplify it. I LOVED the tutorial we had before there were problems with the portals from the last spawn. It had different environments, the holos were neat, it was easy to follow and read. If we could fix that up, add some more in some places and leave out other things, then it would be much better and give players an easier idea of where to go.

I'll say +1 to lowering supreme and ultimate. I don't think the others really need a lowering
Idea -
rank prices from VIP - ult: 10, 20, 40, 80, 120, 160
This way once you get elite you're paying $40 for each increase after that. And it's nowhere near as awful. Still a lot, and it'll give us hella bonus. I'm not sure how it'd program with the existing ranks and prices but I'd hope our magical admins can find a way

99% sure this is a donor perk again.
I don't know what the numbers were before. I know ults had 5 or 6 but cits and VIPS could only claim 1
No idea but I'd +1 to add it to the donor perks if it's not already there. Again, perks are nice

+1 to add glass pick, maybe a nerfed grappling hook (can only move 10-20 blocks max) or disallow it in wild
I wouldn't say remove end portals, but 100% they should be lowered if they're at 400K lolol
Again for skelly eggs, if they're common, they can still be bought, they're still neat, just lower it.
+1 to add bears
- No for elytra, they spawn naturally, I think that should be fine enough. Good to keep a market up if we can

This shouldnt even have to be a suggestion

-1 wow ur the worstststststtttt

 

I see what you're saying but this would put massive amounts of meebles into the economy if people got payed for literally everything they do. Maybe if we decreased jobs pay, this would be okay +/-

I'm able to join on the normal launcher so I think this is just you.

I didn't know about his because I didn't just join, but good idea. Definitely +1

I didn't even know this. What's up with that meep? Add a tutorial! If I joined with no tutorial, I probably would not have continued playing because I wouldn't have know how to play.

Agreed. /fly certainly is nice (boohoo I don't have it) but I agree. Not worth $320. An idea I had (which I forgot to make a suggestion on) was making custom kits in kit pvp for certain ranks. Each rank would get a specific special kit and NONE of the other ranks get that kit. This would make lower ranks feel special. Higher ranks' kits would be cooler and have cooler powers but they wouldn't be better than others kits. Bigly EUGE +1 <--( Trump Talk)

Not sure what's up with this, but yea, probably should fix it.

My Favorite One^. 100% agree. Nothing in donor shop is worth the money. You can buy a horse egg for like 50k was it? You can buy a horse from a player for 5k and get it transported to your town for 5k. Don't even get me started in skelly horses. SOOOO MANY OF THEM!!! +111111111111111111111111

True. Yes focus mainly on towny but I do like the custom minicamps in the server. Yes definitely reduce the amount of players needed for the games. Also, BRING BACK CTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS MY FAVORITE!

Good ideas Achmed. Also, this post took me ten minuets to write

 

It's not just him, it's location and your connection, due to mojang's blacklist we can't control some of meep has to use this launcher

 

The idea behind this is you're supposed to stay in that one job. Being in multiple at once just means you'd make money no matter what you're doing. Because we no longer have the admin shop, the goal is for jobs to encourage players to gather items, and trade among themselves with items.

This is a rarer issue that forces you to use the alternate launcher. Most players (including myself) can access the server perfectly fine without using SquidHQ.

We need to have some kind of indication that leads players to the quest. 2,500 is a minimal amount, but they can make another 15k with ease by doing the quests.

I fully agree this is a problem, and no matter what it done, /help is never going to be the best tutorial. However, there is something already made called the Tutorial Quest, that simply hasn't been implemented yet because of all the bug fixes going on. I don't think this will quite replace a Tutorial, but it is another way new players are somewhat forced to learn about things in order to get easy money.

The reason we can even have the perks we already have is because of the blacklist. Having a high rank price helps the server a lot, because people still buy it. Rather, we should make it more worth the money instead of lowering the price.

Yep, this is a bug, no idea when this'll be fixed, sadly.

The Glass pickaxe broke after we updated to 1.10, so that's why it was removed entirely. I am not sure about the grappling hook, but it would be nice to have back. Probably shouldn't add Elytras but I'd love to swap out skeleton horses with baby polar bears.

Doesn't even need to be discussed, Towny is the best.

 

As far as jobs go I'd like to wait a while before anything is tweaked just to see how it goes. I actually like the idea of not switching between jobs. it makes the decision of what job to pick more important. -1

Tutorial is a +1. New players to eco servers is very confusing. I almost didn't get into Meepcraft because of it.

Ranks need to have some sort of replacement stuff after Eula. I paid up to exclusive and a friend gifted me Elite. neither is worth it. think about what else people could spend their money on with $80. You could get GTA V and Rust for that at full price. +1

Creative +1 bc why not it's creative not like it's that important.

shop stuff:
End Portal frame removal -1 but a price reduction is a +1
Skeletal horse egg removal +1. it is so pointless with as many as there are around towns to have one in shop.
Adding polar bear eggs +1 YES!
Adding elytras -1. I think their current rarity is good enough. No need to add more when I'm sure we'll have plenty more soon to come as the server progresses.

Anything left commented on I am neutral about. I think we should give him a good chance he has many great ideas and I agree with many of them. Thank you for bringing these up!

 

+1 to polar bears replacing skeleton horse thingys

 

I agree with the majority of this, but you seem to be implying that new players will actually know how to start quests and what the rewards will be if they complete them. Might be good to put something at the end of the tutorial that says 'Hey, you should complete the quests from the quest master to earn 15k! Ask in /shout if you need help.' just to get them on their way.

 

To be honest, I'd even like to see -
RIGHT in front of the /warp spawn point there's a holo saying do /g for global and /help or /modreq for help
And one that says right click the quest master to earn 5K (or whatever the tutorial prize is.)
and quest master defaults to start tutorial quest first

 

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. We need to make it more obvious to make players complete the quests.

I'd love to see this added, as well.