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Removal of /smelt timer

Discussion in 'Denied' started by Oroperion, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Oroperion

    Oroperion Celebrity Meeper

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    Unless there is a reason for it beyond my comprehension, I do not see the need for a timer on /smelt. It is fairly frustrating when you have a large number of ores to smelt.
     
  2. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    Its either one or both
    1. Reduces OPness
    2. I know there was a sorta dupe bug with repeating commands too quickly. Thats why a cooldown was added to /chest too. *shrug*
     
  3. Oroperion

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    In the event of a dupe bug, I'm sure that they could at least shorten it to say, 5 seconds.
     
  4. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Elder

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    No dupe bug. /smelt is wickedly OP. We can remove it, or annoy you. lol
     
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  5. Imperfectly

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    Does you even play anymore?
     
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    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    Ah, I'm always around, I pop on now and again. I usually keep up with stuff by talking to people or forums...
     
  7. Geeneus

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    Maybe "wickedly OP" is ok sometimes for a rank that costs $320.

    With all of the nerfs, an ultimate doesn't have many significant advantages over a premium, but it costs 1,600% more.
     
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  8. KlutchDecals

    KlutchDecals The Real Ironman Elder

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    With all the nerfs Lmao. I buffed everything, and just because a rank costs 320 doesnt leam im letting anyone ruin an eco. ;]
     
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  9. Dockson

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    May I suggest an alternative?

    As it stands, /smelt automatically smelts whatever you hold without any requirements (other than having Ult of course).

    It might be preferable for you Ultimate guys to have the /smelt command with only a slight delay (speaking <5 seconds) but require coal to execute (1 coal per 8 items as with a furnace).

    It should not be a huge hindrance for ults using the command and would help to get lots of coal out of the market.
     
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  10. Geeneus

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    /feed, /fix, and /fly in wild. These are pretty much the only reasons I wanted premium, elite, and ultimate respectively. Removing these nerfed the ranks. I am not sure what you mean when you said that you buffed everything.

    That being said, I totally understand and respect the reasoning behind it. The economy is very important to me as I know it is to you.

    I also understand that the economy just reset, and you all are hard at work, balancing and reworking the economy (and doing a very good job at it in such a short time).

    My point is simply that, at this time, ranks are not worth the meebles or USD like they used to be. That is a straight up fact.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 21, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 21, 2017 ---
    I thought of the very same. Seems like a reasonable idea. 1 stack of coal blocks in one of your echests and you are good to go.

    It would not affect the economy any more than someone building a nice autosmelter.
     
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  11. Natsu

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    In all seriousness though

    -Feed: decreases the demands of the food market even more
    -Fix: makes diamonds and xp pretty much worthless
    -Fly in wild: easier to locate structures and to get resources

    Fly lets you build in towny which is pretty cool in my opinion.

    Klutch buffed jobs and other features but I agree that ranks should be worth something

    So suggest more features!
     
  12. Geeneus

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    /Feed where your food bar is always full, like it was in old meepcraft, would be extremely OP post 1.9. Something viable would be if /feed would feed the character 1 piece of food (4 foodpoints) with a specific cooldown time. The cooldown would be the time a player would have to eat again without regenerating. If the player did any regeneration, it would use foodpoints, and he would have to eat again without /feed. This might include jump sprinting as well. If the player jumpsprints for an extended time, he would have to eat before cooldown.

    Although this would mean that even ultimates need food, I don't think it affects the economy much one way or another, as anyone with premium+ is perfectly capable of collecting their own food. I don't really see a market for high ranks purchasing food either way. It is similar to not wanting to ruin the economy for cobblestone; doesn't really matter, anyone can collect it easily for themselves.

    This would be simplified to the player as "use /feed to eat, 60s cooldown," or whatever time it actually takes.

    /Fix could take diamonds and xp to complete, . An article could take all or maybe 50% of the diamonds to repair, as well as maybe 10 levels or so. The advantage would be that the player doesn't need an anvil, and the repairs don't increase exponentially, staying at 10 levels per repair each time. The diamond and xp market would not suffer from this.

    I don't see ultimates making large profits from "finding structures" using /fly in the wild. There is one big problem with flying in wild: supply drop chests. Ask yourself though, supply drops or flying in the wild? Which one would people want?

    My point here is that there are plenty of workarounds for ranks that don't hurt the economy, yet give the ranked players great benefits. It just takes a little bit of thought to weigh the consequences of each benefit.

    I have complete confidence that the admins and staff team are perfectly capable of weighing the consequences objectively and deciding what is best for the ranked players and the economy.
     
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  13. buttfly29

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    What are you? The new cluelessklutz?
     
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  14. Geeneus

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    No, I am actually such a noob that I don't even know who that is. So, yeah, that tells you how much my opinions matter. :p
     
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    Congratz you don't know the mayor of legend and one of the best mods? gg honestly
     
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  16. Natsu

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    @CluelessKlutz is a noob that no one knows about he is famous for his star wars obsession and being the king of nerds. Did I just contradict myself

    Everyone's opinions matter equally here and I respect you.

    The problem with this, is players feel like there are too much limitations.

    *player donates $80 for fix*
    *still need diamonds to fix*
    "Wtf"
    *charges back and leaves server*
     
  17. Geeneus

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    Yeah, but I live by myself in the wild in a 10 x 2 x 10 box... Who do I know? Haha. I generally play meepcraft for the economy instead of the social aspect. But that's sort of besides the point of this thread.

    Well, there could be clarification somewhere. Also, if anyone donates for a specific command, they are extremely likely to inquire about it first. It is not like they'd assume "Hey, /fix, that fixes everything for free." They'd be curious, "Hmm /fix, it sounds like it might repair things. What does it repair, how much does it repair, what are its limitations?" They'd at least ask on /g "how does /fix work, I am considering buying elite." On top of that, the majority of people would know a good bit about how things work before they even purchase elite.

    As a similar example (although admittedly less realistic), how many people said:
    "Oh, cool, supreme has /unenchant"
    *Purchases supreme for $160*
    "What, this costs xp?"
    *charges back and leaves server*

    If they don't inquire about the command, they are likely to simply accept the limitations.
     
  18. builderjunkie012

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    what if we traded the /smelt timer and made smelt cost fuel instead?
     
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  19. KlutchDecals

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    McGen Im letting you know now, you are coming across as a bigot here and its kind of off putting.

    I understand your point and opinion, But when I have a list of 100 things to fix, your pussy, snappy, sassy comebacks at why im not focused on a pretty Null issue at the moment is pretty frustrating to deal with. Id appreciate a little consideration for the positive things ive brought back instead of the constant negativity.
     
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    and here i am thinking i had an original idea. Good one man
     
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