If you can vote, who will you vote for; if you can't, who would you want to vote for?

@KlutchDecals -- Not true? What president made a 10 year ban on gun and is responsible for MOST of the currently banned guns? Ooh yeah. Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton isn't running for president. You just implied that it was Hillary. "One likes guns, one wants to ban guns."

The democratic party has time and time again made it harder for us to do our jobs. Obama and his BLM fans have certainly ruined it for us lol.

I'm not a Democrat, or a fan of Obama. I'm a Brit for starters, and I'd almost certainly be an Independent if I lived in the U.S.

Trumps tax returns were something he used because it was legal, and put into place by who? democrats. Hillary Clinton could have changed that law but didnt, and wont, because her friends use it as well. Stop acting like hes a criminal for following the law.

I never claimed that he was a criminal. I'm claiming that it is greatly immoral.

You of all people would abuse the same thing if you had that $.

What does this even mean? Me "of all people"?

Do you honestly want to go on record, as a mod on site full of a children, and publicly declare that Tax Avoidance is acceptable? Seriously, Klutch. There are dozens of kids on here. Please don't do this.

Hillary hasnt committed crimes? Are you kidding?

Please don't move the goalposts like this, because you didn't just say that.

You said: "One gave up nothing and got away with more public crime than anyone in history."

I mean... Al Capone for starters, surely? I think Hillary is a PoS, but there's no chance she's committed more public crime than anyone in history.

If you're going to use hyperbole, you have to make it clear. Maybe she has committed crimes in office. I have a suspicion that she has, though I honestly don't know.

Let me know when you stop being an ignorant internet troll and actually look up wikileaks.

Wow. Ironic.

If you want to say "Wikileaks is a lie" then why did Obama make it illegal to possess them. Weird.

Are you okay man? Real talk for a second. Are you sure your post is meant for me?

- I never said I was a Democrat or a supporter of Obama.

- I never said that Trump broke the law with his tax scandal.

- I never said 'Hillary hasn't committed crimes'.

- I never said Wikileaks is a lie.

If your post was meant for me, go and toke up for a bit. Chill, and return when things have settled. Because I don't think this conversation makes anyone look good.

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They arn't media forums. One is an aggregate of the market price (set by experts with generations of experience). One is run by Nate Silver, arguably the most reliable statistician in U.S. politics. The other (as I'm providing now) is proof of the market share, by UK bookmakers.

predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#plus

2016 US Election Winning Party Betting Odds | Oddschecker

 

No! This is not true. It is not illegal to read wikileaks in any form. This was specifically ruled to be legal due to NYT publishing leaks previously.

 

Guys guys guys with the gun rights thing:

This is a 3rd person perspective from a Japanese person. Guns are banned in Japan.

Guns give people the ability to kill other people easily, in a matter of seconds. I know that guns have been an important culture in America, from the colonial period, and it is still valued. People hunt for pleasure, and protect themselves in the wilderness.

However, many things have changed. New guns allow people to kill more people. Many people do not face the constant danger that the settlers might have faced almost two centuries ago. The gun manufacturers have bribed the politicians, and they have become an influential group in America.

We have to ask ourselves the consequences of having the ability to kill others. It reminds me of the accident at a night club in Florida where more than 30 people got shot by a member of ISIS with a semi automatic gun. It reminds me of the numerous incidents where kids killed their parents. Or the school shootings that take lives of innocent students. It reminds me of the sniper that shot police officers in Dallas. And the unnecessary amount of lives taken by police officers.

Guns are the mere source of accidents. I am not saying that we should get rid of the 2nd Amendment, but it is evident that there is no need for semi automatic guns or snipers. Nor should politicians be influenced by gun manufacturers.

 

I respect your perspective, but it is largely not relevant in the American context for a few reasons. A gun ban of any kind is simply unenforceable in America, due to the sheer amount of them around. Removing them would likely cause major strife in the population and would take us past a few thresholds I do not think we want to go through, namely the shredding of existing civil liberties in the process of removing them. Additionally, America is a very unique and independent type of nation, we strongly believe in our rights and we strongly believe that the government is here at our pleasure, and we, the citizens are the highest authority in the land.

I personally believe having an armed citizenry is one of many efforts at maintaining out freedom of tyranny in any form. When all else fails, we will be able to defend ourselves at our homes against any oppressor. This additionally creates a society which cannot be annexed, no invading nation / army / force will ever be able to occupy America purely due to having to fight so many people.

There is room to control guns, common sense gun control is the answer, disarming our population is not.

Speaking of civil liberties, Trump is a grave threat to those having already spoke about how the First Amendment needs limitations, threats of jailing his political opponents and punishing naysayers. Not to mention how strongly Putin supports him, a man and nation known for jailing political dissenters or even outright (allegedly) killing opposition. Russia is becoming, if not already became, an authoritarian nation and we should be weary of the candidate an authoritarian endorses. Even more frightening, the extent Trump goes to avoiding this fact or outright lying about it.

 

It was 49 people killed, many more injured to be more accurare. it's aside the point. gun violence is very unlikely to affect me or anyone else I know. compared to 20 years ago, we're still way better off in terms of crime/homicide rates. in chicago, people get shot on a daily basis. most is gang and drug related, so average citizens probably won't get hurt unless they get caught in the cross fire. Mass shootings make up a neglible amount of deaths. sure we could decrease the number of them, and I support registration that enforces background checks and mental health testing, but taking away all guns would be a bad idea. if we repeal the 2nd amendment, we have just shown that we are capable of undoing one of the basic rights our founding fathers have given us. I want to own a gun and I want concealed carry to be legal. if other countries have shown us anything, it's that gun control can work and allowing guns can work. it's all about balance. since we are the United states, obviously we have no choice other than to allow guns.


For the record, police officers don't really kill unnecessarily that often. it's usually the media that exaggerates it. yes these killings should be reviewed, but statistically it's rarely unjust

 

Im about to go IN.

What about stabbings or bombings? Did you know the #1 gun death act is suicide? In fact since 1999 over 60%. . did you get that 60% of firearm deaths have been suicide. Not even used on other people. In 2013, 10 MILLION guns were sold while we only had 10,000 homicides. How about the fact that Homicides have been going DOWN SINCE MORE GUNS HAVE BEEN SOLD. Did you also know that the #2 is gang violence which is a HUGE issue in lower income cities? Did you know what most of those guns are not even legally owned by them anyway? Most are stolen and have scratched serial numbers. So yeah lets make laws to make it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against these idiots. Your logic is so far, spot on.

Secondly no need for semi auto? DO you even know what the 2nd amendment is or do they not teach that to you.
Lets say that the government decides that Jews are the main problem with our country and go around rounding them up. Lets say a civil war breaks out. Guns are necessary for the free people to defend themselves. I do not rely on my government to keep me safe, not should any civilian. It is utterly moronic and ignorant to think that no one needs a semi auto firearm. Japan doesn't have guns because they want to have full control over their people. You don't have to negotiate with anyone not carrying a firearm.

If my government decides to do anything stupid or anyone around me decides to do something stupid, I need to have the same firepower they do to keep a fair ground. Its people like you chiming in thinking you have ANY idea what you're talking about that makes it so hard for us gun guys to get anything past. You literally think that you know everything about guns when I guarantee you have never fired a single shot out of a gun. Ignorance is bliss sometimes and when you know very little about a subject, sometimes its better to just sit on the sidelines and watch instead of getting ripped apart like this convo here.

Did you know that almost every single mass shooting in the USA has happened in a gun free zone? Why? Because people know that those are places with the least resistance. Cops are the most commonly known "good guy" in a situation. Do you know why you dial 911 and we show up with guns? To protect everyone. Weird how that works isn't it? But I thought guns were bad?

Look up the definition of sniper and do me a favor. Don't ever use your Call of Duty gun knowledge in a real world conversation about guns again. Theirs no such thing as a "Sniper" referring to a gun. A sniper a human trained to do a specific task. I.e a Hunter is a sniper while hunting. REALLY grinds my gears. A rifle a sniper uses is simply a Semi-auto or more commonly, a bolt action rifle. If we cant have bolt action then I think you're telling us we cant hunt. Or are you saying we should ban scopes over 2x? Or bi-pods? maybe you mean we shouldn't have long barrels.

Most likely that you really just have NO idea what you're talking about.

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For the rest of the convo.
FBI reopens Clinton email investigation after new messages found

Shes being investigated again. She is on record saying "Anyone being investigated by the FBI shouldn't be able to own a gun".
But shes telling us shes better suited to run for president?
Trump has said many dumb things, But at least he isn't a criminal.

 

@KlutchDecals -- To Me -- you [are] being an ignorant internet troll

On your first reply to @Natsu, you; shout down at him multiple times, consistently infer that they're ignorant, and sarcastically talk down to them throughout the entirety of your post. These are real people you're talking to. Real human beings that shouldn't have to put up with the way you're treating them. Please, stop. Treat your fellow man with a bit of decency for Christ's sake.

"What about stabbings or bombings? Did you know the #1 gun death act is suicide? In fact since 1999 over 60%. . did you get that 60% of firearm deaths have been suicide. Not even used on other people. In 2013, 10 MILLION guns were sold while we only had 10,000 homicides. How about the fact that Homicides have been going DOWN SINCE MORE GUNS HAVE BEEN SOLD. Did you also know that the #2 is gang violence which is a HUGE issue in lower income cities? Did you know what most of those guns are not even legally owned by them anyway? Most are stolen and have scratched serial numbers. So yeah lets make laws to make it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against these idiots. Your logic is so far, spot on.

Secondly no need for semi auto? DO you even know what the 2nd amendment is or do they not teach that to you.
Lets say that the government decides that Jews are the main problem with our country and go around rounding them up. Lets say a civil war breaks out. Guns are necessary for the free people to defend themselves. I do not rely on my government to keep me safe, not should any civilian. It is utterly moronic and ignorant to think that no one needs a semi auto firearm. Japan doesn't have guns because they want to have full control over their people. You don't have to negotiate with anyone not carrying a firearm.

If my government decides to do anything stupid or anyone around me decides to do something stupid, I need to have the same firepower they do to keep a fair ground. Its people like you chiming in thinking you have ANY idea what you're talking about that makes it so hard for us gun guys to get anything past. You literally think that you know everything about guns when I guarantee you have never fired a single shot out of a gun. Ignorance is bliss sometimes and when you know very little about a subject, sometimes its better to just sit on the sidelines and watch instead of getting ripped apart like this convo here.

Did you know that almost every single mass shooting in the USA has happened in a gun free zone? Why? Because people know that those are places with the least resistance. Cops are the most commonly known "good guy" in a situation. Do you know why you dial 911 and we show up with guns? To protect everyone. Weird how that works isn't it? But I thought guns were bad?

Look up the definition of sniper and do me a favor. Don't ever use your Call of Duty gun knowledge in a real world conversation about guns again. Theirs no such thing as a "Sniper" referring to a gun. A sniper a human trained to do a specific task. I.e a Hunter is a sniper while hunting. REALLY grinds my gears. A rifle a sniper uses is simply a Semi-auto or more commonly, a bolt action rifle. If we cant have bolt action then I think you're telling us we cant hunt. Or are you saying we should ban scopes over 2x? Or bi-pods? maybe you mean we shouldn't have long barrels.

Most likely that you really just have NO idea what you're talking about."



Disgusting.

 

I wasnt going to reply to this thread but this one single point hurts me so much I'm gonna

making guns harder to get is only going to make the 'right people' gunless
bad people are going to get guns regardless
let people protect themselves if they wish to own a gun

 

This is a reply when someone needs to make a comeback but has NO content to back it up. Thanks for making my day.

Everything I said was truth but mean! Call me Trump.

 

@KlutchDecals -- This is a reply when someone needs to make a comeback

No they don't. We're on a MineCraft forum. Not in court.

but has NO content to back it up.

You can mind-read, can you?

Thanks for making my day.

Awesome. How about you make everyone elses, by putting an end to these arrogant condescending tirades?

Everything I said was truth but mean!

Just like the last post where you "told the truth"?

- Where you accused me of being Democrat and/or a supporter of Obama?

- Where you accused me of saying Trump broke the law?

- Where you accused me of denying that Hillary has committed crimes?

- Where you accused me of thinking that the Wikileaks dumps are lies?

There are many 4-letter words that spring to mind. "True", isn't one of them.

 

So youre now mad because In a debate, I shredded someones false information. Hm weird. And you call yourself "The Debatheist".

 

Also untrue... What about every other weapon that exists? lol
Or stuff that isn't exactly used as a weapon, but can easily be a weapon. Hell, I can kill someone with a pencil if I tried hard enough.

let people protect themselves. Having someone that wants to ban guns will not help us.

 

"I don't have any half-decent arguments, so I'll just say that the other person is mad when he is clearly not." Attacking his character is not proper conduct in a debate, Klutch, (and trust me, I'm sure you'll say "coming from you it means nothing" or some silly, irrelevant ad-hominem like that, judging by your previous posts) at least try to propose a valid argument. So far, you've done nothing but go off-topic and get angry at him.

 

110% Untrue. Please show me the FBI statistics.

Nice of you to show up. When someone brings up a topic I guarantee I know more about and spread lies? yeah i shut it down.
Youre upset because im not debating to your standard on a minecraft forum. Got it.

 

I'm mad that you treat other people terribly. You don't seem to understand the most fundamental difference in debates. The distinction between ideas and people. Attacking ideas is absolutely fair game. Attacking the person making them is not.

You brazenly lie (as demonstrated in #229) and treat interlocutors disgustingly (Post #226).

You're a textbook definition of a bigot and a bully.

Marriam Webster & Websters

-- Bigot --
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance

-- Bully --
A noisy, blustering fellow, more insolent than courageous; one who is threatening and quarrelsome; an insolent, tyrannical fellow.

"What about stabbings or bombings? Did you know the #1 gun death act is suicide? In fact since 1999 over 60%. . did you get that 60% of firearm deaths have been suicide. Not even used on other people. In 2013, 10 MILLION guns were sold while we only had 10,000 homicides. How about the fact that Homicides have been going DOWN SINCE MORE GUNS HAVE BEEN SOLD. Did you also know that the #2 is gang violence which is a HUGE issue in lower income cities? Did you know what most of those guns are not even legally owned by them anyway? Most are stolen and have scratched serial numbers.
[Sarcasm] So yeah lets make laws to make it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against these idiots. Your logic is so far, spot on. [Sarcasm]

Secondly no need for semi auto? DO you even know what the 2nd amendment is or do they not teach that to you.
Lets say that the government decides that Jews are the main problem with our country and go around rounding them up. Lets say a civil war breaks out. Guns are necessary for the free people to defend themselves. I do not rely on my government to keep me safe, not should any civilian. It is utterly moronic and ignorant to think that no one needs a semi auto firearm. Japan doesn't have guns because they want to have full control over their people. You don't have to negotiate with anyone not carrying a firearm.

If my government decides to do anything stupid or anyone around me decides to do something stupid, I need to have the same firepower they do to keep a fair ground. Its people like you chiming in thinking you have ANY idea what you're talking about that makes it so hard for us gun guys to get anything past. You literally think that you know everything about guns when I guarantee you have never fired a single shot out of a gun. Ignorance is bliss sometimes and when you know very little about a subject, sometimes its better to just sit on the sidelines and watch instead of getting ripped apart like this convo here.

Did you know that almost every single mass shooting in the USA has happened in a gun free zone? Why? Because people know that those are places with the least resistance. Cops are the most commonly known "good guy" in a situation. Do you know why you dial 911 and we show up with guns? To protect everyone. Weird how that works isn't it? But I thought guns were bad?

Look up the definition of sniper and do me a favor. Don't ever use your Call of Duty gun knowledge in a real world conversation about guns again. Theirs no such thing as a "Sniper" referring to a gun. A sniper a human trained to do a specific task. I.e a Hunter is a sniper while hunting. REALLY grinds my gears. A rifle a sniper uses is simply a Semi-auto or more commonly, a bolt action rifle. If we cant have bolt action then I think you're telling us we cant hunt. Or are you saying we should ban scopes over 2x? Or bi-pods? maybe you mean we shouldn't have long barrels.

Most likely that you really just have NO idea what you're talking about. "

 

^ I don't even know what this mess is.

However the point of gun statistics in America in moot. Congress, with NRA lobbying, have stripped the CDC of any funds to do any type of comprehensive gun violence study.

This pro-gun and anti-gun thing is getting pretty damned rediculous. The sentiment is fairly simple, guns in society have both a cost and a benefit. Some thing the cost outweighs the benefit, I think the cost does not outweigh the benefits. Gun control should not be based on buzzwords and soundbites. Limiting ammo capacity of a magazine makes no difference in an assault setting, as it takes seconds to reload a magazine (or clip w/e).

Common sense gun control should simply require a background check on all firearm purchases anywhere. One should be licenses just as one is with a vehicle. Yearly re-registration, a test every few years. Those who are compenent in it's usage get to have one, those who are not or have a violent criminal history, mental health issues should not have a gun.

However, pedophile genital grabbing daughter loving Trump is not the candidate to bring about any of these changes. Despite Clinton being a corrupt elite class alleged criminal Trump is a threat to our democracy and way of life. Trump has the potential to put cracks into our nation that we can never remove, and could possibly cause much more damage, like a crack in a foundation.

1. Donald Trump openly admires Putin, a man who has accomplished such things in his country.

• A man and country that openly jails vocal critics of the government, or Putin.
• Russia is ranked 148th out of 179 countries regarding freedom of the Media.
• Russia has just imposed, under Putin's regime, a wave of extremely harsh religious laws. In one such recent case, a Russian youtuber now faces up to 5 years in prison for playing Pokemon Go in church.
  • This law also enables them to enact their own Patriot Act, which is opposite of what we want here.
  • This law bars people from having any religious meeting outside of sanctioned locations.
  • The law specifically targets groups other than Orthodox and Judaism, even sects of Christianity are not recognized. This is a concept alien in my country, a free country, of the government entering in my religious views.

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2. Donald Trump has shown utter disrespect to our country, it's institutions, and the people who have fought and died to ensure we remain in a free society.

• Most notably his public disputes with the parents of a fallen soldier and an American POW and Senator McCain.
• He has encouraged violence with his supporters in his rallies
• He has flirted with "not accepting the outcome" only later barely clarifying he meant through legal processes. Much like his other legal blabberings they turn out to be inconsistent and untruthful vitriolic speech.
• He is actively brewing a sentiment of uprising, with former people of government literally talking about grabbing their firearms if Clinton wins.

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3. DONALD TRUMP HAS LITERALLY SAID HE WANTS TO LIMIT OUR CIVIL RIGHTS

• Many times he has said he wants to open up libel laws to allow governments and others to sue the press more easily on the things they print. Currently libel is hard to prove, in defense of our First Amendment rights.
• Has stated he wants a total and complete shutdown of Muslims coming into our country, something which clearly violates the Fifth Amendment.
• The Wall - He has not once mentioned how much eminent domain would be used to construct this, correct? I do not see how this is small government out of the lives of their citizens. This policy seems like the exact opposite.
• Proponent of Mass Surveillance - In a time where the digital age has threatened the 4th amendment so, Trump takes a dangerous side siding with the proposed police state we're fighting to currently get out of. Law and order ALWAYS comes at the sacrifice of LIBERTY.
• Has spoken about revoking Birthright Citizenship the 14 Amendment passed in 1866. A Republican legislature had to pass this over the veto of the President.
• Has openly said he would promote U.S soldiers / agencies to torture detainees.
• Openly promotes search and seizure, a clear violation of the 4th amendment.
• Wants to erode our First Amendment through internet censorship and closing of religious places.

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4. Donald Trump has openly fascist mannerisms

• Fascism, throughout history has been marked by very deliberate actions and societal emotions. Trump openly comes across as this in many ways
  • A sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions.
    
    • “We don’t have victories anymore. We used to have victories. It would be — you know, having victory after victory. We have nothing,” Trump told Greta Van Susteren in October. “And everything we do is wrong.”
  • “The belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external.”
    
    • “They’re killing us.”
      Trump has used that phrase in its figurative sense to describe how the leaders of Mexico, China, and Iran have victimized the United States. And he’s employed it literally to describe the murderous ways of illegal immigrants and Muslim terrorists.
      To stop “them” from killing “us,” Trump has proposed several remedies that transcend legal and moral precedents. His policies to combat illegal immigration would entail flouting the Constitution’s guarantee of birthright citizenship, along with any ethical qualms about rounding up and deporting millions of law-abiding people. On combating Islamic terrorism, he has proposed unprecedented surveillance of America’s Muslim communities, the immediate deportation of Syrian refugees who have already been granted legal residency, and the reinstitution of military torture — justified not on grounds of efficacy but merely because “they deserve it.”
  • Dread of the group’s decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences.
    
    • While Trump vigorously stokes dread of decline, he occasionally seems to champion class conflict, decrying the influence of big money donors and hedge-fund managers who pay too little in taxes. And Trump has no qualms about individualism. Despite his critiques of campaign finance, he justified his own political donations by invoking his prerogative to look out for his own personal interest. “I was a business man,” he explained to CNN. “When I called them, they always treated me well.”
  • “The need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary.”
    
    • “We have to have assimilation to have a country,” Trump told Dana Bash at the second Republican debate. “This is a country where we speak English, not Spanish.”

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5. Clinton is a liar, but Trump is one too.

• Thousands of muslims celebrating on 9/11
• The Obama administration is bringing a quarter-million Syrians into the country.
  
• Syrian refugees are already flooding the U.S.
  
  • To date: 2000 people from Syria have entered, over 4 years, after an 18 month vetting process which includes multiple background checks and health checks.
• Obama is sending Syrian refugees to Republican states.
  
• Donald Trump absurdly claims Clinton campaign chairman rigged the polls.
• When Hillary Clinton "ran the State Department, $6 billion was missing. How do you miss $6 billion? You ran the State Department, $6 billion was either stolen — they don't know."
• "It’s possible that non-citizen voters were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina."
• "Of course, there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day."
  
• "We don't have any" chess grandmasters in the United States.
  
• Says he won the second debate with Hillary Clinton "in a landslide" in "every poll."
  
• Says a tweet he sent out "wasn’t saying, ‘check out a sex tape.’ It was just ‘take a look at" the background of Alicia Machado.
  
• "Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've ever been in before. Ever. Ever. Ever."
  
• "I finished" the controversy about where President Barack Obama was born.
  
• "My opponent has no child care plan."
  
• Says Hillary Clinton has "not answered a single question" about her immigration plan.
  
• The number of illegal immigrants "could be 3 million. It could be 30 million."
  
• "Inner-city crime is reaching record levels."
  
• Says the U.S. election system is "rigged."
  
• Says Barack Obama "founded ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton."
  
• "Hillary Clinton says she wants to, ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’ "
  
• "We have a fire marshal that said, 'Oh we can't allow more people’ ... And the reason they won't let them in is because they don't know what the hell they're doing."
  
• "As usual, Hillary & the Dems are trying to rig the debates so 2 are up against major NFL games."
  
• "We don't know anything about Hillary in terms of religion. Now, she's been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there's no — there's nothing out there."
  
• Says Hillary Clinton "has even deleted this record of total support (for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement) from her book."
  
• "For the amount of money Hillary Clinton would like to spend on refugees, we could rebuild every inner city in America."
  
• "The Obama administration was actively supporting Al Qaeda in Iraq, the terrorist group that became the Islamic State."
  
• "Crime is rising."
  
• It "is Hillary Clinton's agenda" to "release the violent criminals from jail. She wants them all released."
  
• "Look, we are at war with these people and they don't wear uniforms. … This is a war against people that are vicious, violent people, that we have no idea who they are, where they come from. We are allowing tens of thousands of them into our country now."
  
• Says Ted Cruz’s father "was with Lee Harvey Oswald" before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
  
• The 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix."
  
• Says Ted Cruz "said I was in favor in Libya. I never discussed that subject."
  
• Says that in the Philippines more than a century ago, Gen. John Pershing "took 50 bullets, and he dipped them in pigs’ blood," and shot 49 Muslim rebels. "The 50th person, he said, ‘You go back to your people, and you tell them what happened.’ And for 25 years, there wasn’t a problem."
  
• "Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. The number's probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42 percent."
  
• A Trump television ad shows Mexicans swarming over "our southern border."
  
• Says crime statistics show blacks kill 81 percent of white homicide victims.
  
• The Trans-Pacific Partnership "was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."
  
• "I never said that" Marco Rubio was Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator.
  
• "The last quarter, it was just announced, our gross domestic product … was below zero. Who ever heard of this? It's never below zero."
  
• After the U.S.-led military alliance ejected Saddam Hussein’s forces from Kuwait in 1991, the Kuwaitis "never paid us."

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I cannot fathom how a party of small government and family values has chosen this police state authoritarian perverted pedophile oompa loompa to represent them. I cannot fathom how why they need a 2nd amendment, when they want to strip away every other one leaving us nothing to defend with the 2nd amendment. I cannot fathom how anyone with self respect and pride wants an America that tortures around the world, surveils it's people at home. An America sided with Russia is a threat to all American citizens who value a free and open society.

Trump is a danger to our country, not because of what he will do but because of what may come after him and what they may do after these precendents are set.

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