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Which version is truly more skillful?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by spartanfighter12, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. spartanfighter12

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    I enjoy arguing this and I want to see some banter that's not flaming by actually constructed evidence on the following topic.

    When it comes to Minecraft PVP, is 1.8> versions more skillful than 1.9+ versions?

    My argument:
    Is yeah, 1.8> versions take more skill, and here's why:

    1. When it comes to combat, faster paces requires quicker thinking, faster reaction time and overall a faster playstyle. 1.9 doesn't offer this, limiting the combat to 1 click a second, which lowers this skill cap to a point where newer/inexperienced players don't need to worry about critical factors such as Wtaps, or even a simple strafe. There's no more thrill in getting your opponent in a combo that makes them inable to hit you since you are simply too quick for them.

    2. 1.9 offers little in terms of new strategy. With the exception of different damage for items and cooldown, 1.9 really doesn't add back what it takes. I already posted a bit on it but if I were to list the negatives side-by-side with the positives you'd see what I mean. (Remember, my opinion)

    1.9
    + Different types of damage
    - Click cooldown
    - Eliminates strafing, or otherwise an entire sword meta
    + Cool arrows
    - Makes the gameplay completely dependent on how well the server can transmit a SINGULAR click packet, if it screws it up then you miss out on damage for a second.

    With the exception of one thing, 1.9 only adds aesthetics in pvp.

    3. 1.9 is really only useful for RPG or single player. Nerfing your attack speed makes mob fights more exciting, as before mobs weren't a challenge. However, in terms of a competitive player VS. player system, this is completely degrades the atmosphere of challenge.

    Lastly, before I post I want to get one thing clear, as the majority of pro 1.9 players use this as their argument

    A. Click speed is NOT a factor. I repeat, NOT a factor in terms of separating two players in skill. There's is no or very minimal advantage in clicking faster, as you can only hit a player twice in a second anyway.

    So please, don't say "1.9 requires skill, as you need to time your hits" because there is so much logical fallacy in that statement which I can explain with time but it's pretty self explanatory.


     
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  2. Epicdude141

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    1.9 in my opinion requires way more skill. Why? Because you have to time your hits to make them actually count for something.
     
  3. spartanfighter12

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    I said actual points. I've already debunked this if you can take the time and read it. Do you really want to rely on a servers ability to accurately register one hit? It hardly registers any when you click normally. You only start getting decent hits after the first couple swings. I just don't see what you mean by "make them count for something" when all it does is prevent the more difficult stuff from happening (IE strafing and Wtap)
     
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  5. Muunkee

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    1.8 pvp was actually exciting.
     
  6. spartanfighter12

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    What is your reasoning?
     
  7. Natsu

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    This is why I am a total noob.

    On either versions, I just spam click because I don't know what's going on lol

    Then rekt boom I die either way

    I guess 1.7 is better because Mojang didn't have blacklists
     
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  8. WeAreNumberUno

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    This shouldn't even be an argument.
     
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  9. Muunkee

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    Both sides of the argument say that
    lol
     
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  10. Epicdude141

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    What the craft did you just say to me you little creeper? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Mithrina Academy, and have been involved in numerous secret griefs with Team Avolition, and I have griefed over 300 servers. I am trained in creeper warfare and I'm the top skeleton in all of the minecraft griefing teams in existance. You are nothing to me but just another block. I will blow you up with precisiion the likes of which has never been seen before in this blocky world. Notch my fucking pickaxe. You think you can get away with griefing me like that? Think again, blockhead. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of creepers across my server and your coords traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, zombie. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're blocking dead, kid. I can teleport anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over 700 ways, and that's just with my wooden sword. Not only am I extensively trained in PvP, but I have have access to all the chests on my server and I will use them to their full extent to ban your miserable block off the face of the server, you little block. If ony you could have known what unholy retribution your "clever" comment was about to TNT down upon you. Maybe you would have held your fucking pickaxe. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you blockhead. I will drop gravel all over you, and you will suffocate in it. You're blocking dead, blockface.

    I'm messing with you, I read ur original post way before I made mine. Obvious troll is obvious?
     
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    ok
     
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  12. CluelessKlutz

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    Actually, no versions have the "blacklist" implemented into them.
    I agree; 1.9 combat would be so much better if the timer was halved. It takes forever to kill other plays, but mobs shred through you so much easier. It takes away from the "openness" of the game that has always existed as far as PvP.
     
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  13. 00000

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    point and click adventure is stupid, play a real pvp game. Anyone who prides themselves even a trifle over supposed "skill" in a game played mainly by white 12 year olds with annoying frog voices and addiction to dabbing, minecraft parody songs, and skydoesminecraft etc needs a reality check.

    bait aside it's obviously 1.8, 1.9 pvp is a stupid and slow trainwreck of a pvp system that should have been thrown in the garbage the very unholy day it was conceived in the mind of a mojang employee. Timing your hits doesn't make for any more fun or skill, it just makes fights boring and obnoxious.
     

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