Feminism in First-World Nations

Is feminism still needed in first-world countries? Does it actually serve any good purpose in these countries? In my opinion, the answer is no. Feminists in first-world countries tend to skewer little things to make them into big issues, they often use sexism as an excuse for issues, and they even tend to favor women over men (even going as far as claiming that all men are sexist). While feminism technically focuses on equality between the sexes, the movement does so by bringing women up the level of men, which they're already at (on a societal level, that is). Therefore, feminism serves no good purpose, as men and women are already societal equals (While some sexism does tend to remain in society, it's mostly equal, not directed at women).

Discuss.

 

At the moment,meetings are complaint about stupid things. Like, why aren't there that many fat girls in games? How does that help you. iMo feminism in first world countries is extremely stupid. You know how women pay more for bathroom stuff? It's because the buy branded soaps towards them. They also buy makeup, and items men don't need or use.

In my bathroom, I have just deodorant, toothpaste, toothbrush, comb, soap&conditioner and a bout 4 other things.

In my moms, she has atleast 200 different products and things.

That explains the price of items gap.

The wage gap is the only real issue, but if someone is doing better work than you, even if you're a girl, they deserve to be payed more.

 

The wage gap only exists based on the average earnings of men and women as a whole. Women tend to go into careers that pay less, which is why women receive less money, on average. When men and women have the same job and are doing equal work, women are not paid less than men.

 

"The 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not take account for differences in occupation, positions, education. job tenure, or hours worked per week."

 

isnt real

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woah really

 

Didn't the last thread about feminism get locked?

 

it was an attention seeking thread, not meant for actual debating "prove me wrong, PROTIP: you cant" something like that

 

I'm triggerd so please take what I say with a grain of salt and side of peper


So modern day feminism is very much different from older types of feminism. I am a feminist you could say, I am %100 fine and for girls/women having the same exact rights as boys/men. The problem is that modern day feminism is more like femi-nazi.

First we must determine what feminism is by definition.

• The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

It should be that simple, but it's not. Now feminism is more so shoot down EVERYTHING a guy says to prove your superior. Modern day feminism isn't women are equal to men but are superior to men. Often they are quick to say without girls you wouldn't be here, well I guess those people haven't been to 7th grade health class because you need a male counterpart so that a fetus can be made. Another thing that happens is these women will host rallies purley hating on men claiming that men do nothing but steal their money and rape them. It seems that modern day feminist hate men and think they are better.

Something that bothers me is the whole wage gap situation. Equal rights and equal treatment are very different things. Take the 1950's in America, to some degree African Americans had the same rights as a caucasian person. But they still weren't treated right. If you feel your job isn't paying you enough don't go to some dark room in the subway at 11:00 frikin o'clock at night to share the hate speech you wrote for the last 2 days instead of thinking how to tell your boss they're not paying you fairly.

Again back to my main point feminism and modern day feminism are very different modern day is purely that women are better than men. That men should be grateful they are allowed to make eye contact with women. Quite honestly it's extremely ironic how their whole goal is for equal rights yet they think that they are better and deserve more rights than men.

Hope you enjoyed the view of a tri-g-g-e-e-r-d-d 13 year old.

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Oh yeah also girls say how they need to look excuse my langue but I am directly quoting on of them

18+ language (open) 18+ language (close)

slutty

in order to attract men. That is by no means men saying if you don't look this way I won't date you. It's what men are attracted to, we have no control over it. It's %100 an evolution based thing. I don't want to go into the detail because I feel a little uncomfortable typing it. Much like a homosexual person they have no control over the fact the are attracted to the same sex they just are.

 

Your point?

If the last thread got locked, that's all the more reason to create a new thread.

 

I was just wondering pls

 

Wage gap has been debunked. Women on a large scale work less hours than men which accounts for it. Why? Most women would rather spend time at home taking care of their children. Oh, and in fact, women are proven to make more than men when working in the same position with the same PHDs.

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I love Christina Hoff Sommers, thanks for linking that.

 

Here's what typical first world feminism is: Taylor Swift singing "Boys only want love it it's torture, don't say I didn't warn you". Feminism in first world countries is not about equal rights for men and women (and transgenders and apache attack helicopters) but for more rights for women than for men, and also to prove that all men are swines.

All my support goes out to third world country feminists and women's rights supporters alike, but people like Taylor Swift seriously make me question what the heck is wrong with this world.

 

Sorry I didn't know about that.

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Yea. At this point Feminists are trying to make women the dominant sex, which quite frankly won't happen. As, many don't care, and are sane people. Imo we're as close as equal as possible.

 

I mean.... uh... feminine products do exist, and do add up over time.

I think there are a great number of issues modern-day feminism addresses - regardless of feminazism or not.
One example is the outcry currently against the rape court cases. Brock Turner, for example. The attention brought to this case was mostly by feminists (nazis or not), and hopefully such cases will progress to reformation.

 

The world is far too liberal atm, in my opinion. The fact that "black lives matter" is a thing just shows how rapid change has been, most of which up till this point has been right. But all lives matter, and this campaign shows how things which have a good idea can be twisted into a superiority thing. Also everyone thinks they deserve something atm and everyone seems to be out for themselves, this can be blamed on many things such as the economy, way people are taught etc. At the end of the day, morally, people should be equal, but i don't think there is a eutopia that could exist where everyone is treated equally because of human nature. There will always be someone with a different opinion, whether it is morally wrong is beside the point, because of all this i believe Feminism will always be a just be an idea as i cannot see a world where everyone will and could be treated equally.

 

I mean I've heard many many WW2 stories (I, along with my whole family are Jewish) and this is pretty much nothing compared to nazis.

 

It's an analogy everywhere while yes I agree that nazis is much more harsh it's just trying to convey the extremism of them it's probaly a little overkill tho.

 

Feminazism = Killing all men?

 

I'm studying WWII for Academic Decathlon. I know they're much worse. It's a colloquialism, and no one actually thinks they're that terrible.

well. there are some who advocate... extreme measures...

 

lmao no haha, more or so nazis had very extremely wrong and not well thought out points of views like most modern feminists.