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Discussion in 'Debates' started by CluelessKlutz, Jul 13, 2016.

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Should /feed return?

  1. Yes, it should.

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  2. Nope

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  1. CluelessKlutz

    CluelessKlutz Badmin

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    So, it's been months since /feed was removed, per suggestion after the EULA gave it to all players. My question is, should /feed be brought back (for everyone)?
     
  2. anikin ultimate

    anikin ultimate Popular Meeper

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    -1 Because this takes quite a bit out of the game. It takes away the survival aspect for the people who like to do that kind of thing in the wild but also, I know not many people do this but I have one, it takes away the need for all these restaurants people have made. Some people have spent a long time making really big and good ones. I know i'd be upset if it all got taken away. And you're probably thinking why you should care because you don't own one of these restaurants. Well by removing restaurants and places which sell food for something you're taking a chunk out of the 'economy' aspect of the server. Good idea, but -1 from me.
     
  3. CluelessKlutz

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    Allow me to clarify, this is not a suggestion, so there is no need to vote. Now, allow me to discuss several points you have brought up.
    Firstly, anyone who wanted to go survival could turn it off. Second, I don't see anybody calling for a removal of /chest, which is not in vanilla (naturally). Same goes for tpa and /sethome. Minecraft has many natural modes of transportation, such as horses, rail, and boats, but we use teleportation instead. Minecraft has a natural solution for hunger: food, so what is the differences? Therefore, this arguement requires everything to be in pure vanilla, with no additions whatsoever.

    While you are correct in the assumption I do not own a restaurant, I do not feel this clouds judgement on the issue. Restaurants have never been incredibly popular, which is why people have stores instead. In addition, people usually only come to restaurants for the experience, which can still be accomplished by toggling feed. Most people use the vshop to buy food over a restaurant in the first place, anyways.
    This would be a valid arguement if we were a vanilla server. But, we're not. That's why removing feed in the first place was inane, in my opinion: there never was; and never will be a food market. We have cow spawners, sheep spawners, pig spawners, etc. If you look at the vshop, you may purchase most food for less than a Meeble each. Unless someone is just ignorant of other methods, or really wants to sell food, nobody farms just to sell food.

    Care to refute my points?
     
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  4. M0W0G

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    [MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE BUT YOU CAN DISABLE IT IF YOU CHOOSE]
     
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  5. Melchior_Dahrk

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    I don't really care. The only time I really eat is in Airship or in Wild. Otherwise I spend most of my time in my own town and I don't lose hunger there from what I can tell. Or at least incredibly slowly. I don't mind carrying food with me since it's nearly impossible to run out of food if you're at least somewhat intelligent about it. And my town has a friendly mob spawner/cooker so there is infinite food readily available... +/-
     
  6. WeAreNumberUno

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    Dude... before you could do /feed off.
    also, -1, just do /pwarp freefood or something.
     
  7. CluelessKlutz

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    Here's the thing, the majority of new players (if they decide to go somewhere besides minigames and KitPvP) don't know any pwarps. More so, why would they think of places where you can get free food on an economy server? We always talk about how we as a server can be different; wouldn't you say no hunger (by choice) is something different?

    Thought of this afterwards:
    And the pwarps with free food don't affect restaurants at all?
     
  8. Muunkee

    Muunkee Legendary art supply hoarder

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    -1.
    I like how people can offer free food as an incentive to go to their pwarps.
    I like that people are actively going to other places to get food, even if there's no market.
    It's a minor annoyance that we can get used to.
     
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  9. CanadianH0b0

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    This command would be useful to have truly. I remember always using it when it was part of my donation commands but its really not a necessity have it or don't have it need it or not need it I don't care ^_^ as long as the rest of the server is happy I'm happy
     
  10. M0W0G

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    It's honestly annoying to have to carry an extra stack of food around and it just slows you down when you have to eat it.
     
  11. anikin ultimate

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    It's not like it takes a massive chunk out of your time to eat. It's like 5 seconds.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 14, 2016, Original Post Date: Jul 14, 2016 ---
    Yes they do but you can't just take those down. It also doesn't make a huge effect because not everyone knows about it and people still come to restaurants. But by giving /feed to all players it just takes restaurants out the picture
     
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  12. M0W0G

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    It's little things that add up to more annoying things , you can say its a weakness of mine, but I like and try to do stuff in the shortest amount of time possible wasting time to eat food just gets annoying.
    Also you say /feed took away restaurants but thats not true when ever someone advertised there place in chat I tpd just to go buy some food and hang out its not about the food its about the roleplay experience and just hanging out and talking to some people I go to pwarps I would never go to, not to buy stuff, but rather to talk to people and hang out its fun at least for me.
     
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  13. CluelessKlutz

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    Still, it is a nuisance. People originally paid for the perk, and it was removed to "help the food market." I sure don't see any change in the prices. When the EULA changes were made, it gave it to everyone, and citizens were pretty happy. All the donators without forums were mad, because they felt they had lost their last perk. In truth, it wasn't really a perk by that point, but they were mad everything was taken from them almost all at once. Shouldn't we be making changes that make new players and past donators happy? Having no hunger would set us apart from most servers, which is what we need. It's small, but it's noticeable.
    Already addressed this:
     
  14. M0W0G

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    Taken you can say that again, the
    mods and fuzzlr [whos not on at all, also to whoever said this I forgot who they said fuzzlr is like a religion there's no proof that he exists but people believe on him out of faith] as I was saying the mods and fuzzlr say calm down it was a donation, I call BS no one thought of it as a damn donation we thought of it as were paying for something and get perks for the cash, my 40$ rank is now as good as vip all the effects for it are purely aesthetics and have no real use except /home and some of the dis commands for spying , they could have at least given us 20 more homes for the cash we lost and given us more /dis perms and more /effect perms but they are just sitting there on there butts saying its all gonna be ok as more and more people continue to leave they didn't even lower the price for the ranks because its a "donation" but I have news for you most people arnt going to pay 180$ to a server that wont be here next year, this server is gone and they gd owner wont do anything about it, [also if saying gd is a forums ban go ahead I have 3 more spare routers that I can hook up any time or I can get a vpn I will come back if you ban and you wont be able to tell if its me.
    IF MEEP REALLY WANTS TO SAVE ITS SELF EVEN THOUGH I DONT THINK FUZZLR CARES LOWER VIP TO 2$ PREM TO 12$ EXCL TO 20$ ELITE TO 50$ AND SUPREME TO 90$ WHICH IS STILL CLOSE BECAUSE MINEPLEXES MOST EXPENSIVE RANK IS 100$ AND MEEP THOUGHT THEY COULD CHARGE 320$ FOR A RANK LMFAO AND ITS NOT LIKE MEEP IS ONE OF THE TOP DOG SERVERS LIKE MINEPLEX. IF THEY LOWERED THE RANK PRICES MORE PEOPLE WOULD BUY BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORTH IT ALSO BOOST THE AMOUNT OF HOMES FOR EVER RANK 15 OR 30. PLEASE MEEP SAVE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOUR THE BEST DAMN MINECRAFT SERVER I HAVE EVER PLAYED. I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO WATCHING ASSASSINATION CLASSROOM BECAUSE THAT IS AMAZING, YOU CAN HATE ON THIS POST IF YOU LIKE I DONT CARE I WAS JUST OFFERING IDEAS TO MEEP BUT THEY ARE STILL SITTING ON THERE BUTTS EVEN THOUGH THE AMAZING MEEP COMMUNITY HAS OFFERED MANY IDEAS BUT THEY CONTINUE TO SIT THERE ALSO NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE BUT I HEARD A POST ABOUT HOW STAFF WENT ON STRIKE LIKE YOU KNOW ITS BAD WHEN YOUR SERVER STAFF GOES ON STRIKE BUT YOU CANT FIRE THEM BECAUSE THEIR THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT RUN THIS SERVER NOT FUZZLR THEY SHOULD GET THE OWNER RANK.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 14, 2016, Original Post Date: Jul 14, 2016 ---
    COMMENCE BARRICADES FOR THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF HATE THAT IS ABOUT TO COME.
     
  15. CluelessKlutz

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    Besides that,
    Woah, woah, calm down. Put that kinda stuff elsewhere, please.
    That's a completely different debate, mate. Besides that, if you equate Fuzzlr to God . . . we have a problem . . .
     
  16. M0W0G

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    I was not saying if there is a god or not I read a post on someones profile that said that, he was stating that people believe in religions out of faith what ever you argue theres no genuine solid evidence that the god exists like how fuzzlr never gets on he was saying fuzzlrs like a religion you cant prove hes there you just believe that he exists out of faith. I wasn't trying to offend anyone I was just stating something that I saw on a profile and imo was pretty funny. And I would never view fuzzlr as a godly figure hes quite far from it.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 16, 2016, Original Post Date: Jul 16, 2016 ---
    I think I am gonna report myself, lol I just realized you can report yourself how stupid who in there right mind would do that. lel, again I was not trying to offend anyone with the post above this.
     
  17. CluelessKlutz

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    You bring up an excellent point here. In Towny, you barely lose any hunger anyways, so we basically have /feed for everyone already. Therefore, it is only affecting Wild, really. I mean look at the world's we have:
    Towny: High saturation, so basically no hunger
    Wild: Hunger enabled, very annoying when going after supply drops, and drastically affects PvP
    Airship: Hunger, but you're only here for a few minutes at a time anyways
    Spawn: Disabled
    Minigames: Disabled
    KitPvP: Disabled
    Parkour: Disabled
    As you can see, hunger is already disabled on most of the server, so why not let the majority rule and disable it everywhere? (With Toggle)
     
  18. WeAreNumberUno

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    The food market is a contributing part of our eco right now, with the plans to remove spawners food grinders are getting more and more inconvenient and costly to the owners, While I don't think restaurants have any chance of making a comeback, I do think that Vshop chains are doing great, I put up 10k steak earlier for 1 meeble each and they sold out within minutes, it doesn't cost alot to the person buying them, and it is very rewarding to those with massive grinders, Now I don't mean to be the rich guy arguing in the interests of his company, but taking away /feed destroys the point of most mobs in general, and affects the eco a lot, firstly, with spawners being removed from the /warp shop, most spawners will see a momentary jump in price as everyone freaks out, and then go back down a little as people rationalise how many are left, and then slowly climb back up as they become rarer, food spawners, will be near worthless. the only people who will buy them are citizens, and citizens won't want to drop that much on a spawner when they can just go to the wild and get there food, with /feed, all the animal spawners are suddenly better than they were before......



    I could not be making any sense :p.......

    cows have 4 legs...
     
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    n00bslayer_99 i like kebab

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  20. Peero

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    No? I lose hunger very fast. I don't care if this isn't a suggestion I'm voting.
    -1. I have never heard of a survival server that has no hunger as default. If I joined a server and I noticed there was no hunger, I would quit because then that isn't a survival server. You mentioned /chest and /tpa, those don't affect the survival part of the game, only the time. Hunger is a part of minecraft, and if you take it away, you make meep less like a survival server.
     
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