'Pride Month'

No, a lot of the "100" characters are never shown; likewise, there are some main characters that aren't part of the "100." Anyway, the bisexual character is the most significant/main character on the show and the show airs on the CW; it's not a Netflix show.

 

That's what I meant, myb for phrasing.

They absolutely would, but that it's irrelevant to the comparison I was trying tom ake.

But then how is it different from LGBT History Month?
Why should both exist? Why is it desired to be not only LGBT History Month, but to ALSO be Pride Month?
Everything listed above can easily be incorporated into history month, as black history month has done. So, if it's the same, I feel it's altogether pointless.

 

Well, they have a semi-different purpose, since gay pride focuses more on the present (increasing visibility, building community, celebrating, etc); however, I would absolutely agree with you on the premise that it's altogether pointless for both months to exist. I was never arguing that both months should exist, I was just explaining why gay pride month does exist and arguing with your claims about it being hypocritical for Gay Pride Month to exist without there being a month for "pedophile pride" as well. Anyway, while it's pointless for there to be both Gay Pride Month and LGBT History Month and it would be much more logical for them to be combined into one, there's not really any issue with people wanting to celebrate both, is there?

 

Umm, this thread is about LGBT people wanting their own special month.

 

It's about celebrating ones history. And I just don't think there's anything wrong with that. The month of June just happens to be a month with a lot of significance. Again, it can be shared. It's not like it's exclusively an LGBT month. It's a time to celebrate.

 

So... Should I celebrate Straight history? Or Atheist history? Or white history (I know that's a month, but it shouldn't be. It's still stupid.)? I mean, it's not like their ancestors were also LGBT, so it isn't exactly like a lineage history thing like White history, Black history, Hispanic history, etc.

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Why not? They're celebrating one group's history over another's, as if they're more important.

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In what ways?

With whom?

Look at the definition of Pride month.

Celebrate what?

 

Please google anti-bullying month and cancer awareness months. That's all you had to do before making that post. I'll do it for you, actually.

http://www.mywalkgear.com/cancer-awareness-calendar-and-ribbon-colors.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bullying_Prevention_Month

Please also realize that there are still many struggles to overcome in achieving equality, nor should you dictate whether other people are oppressed or not. I know in my state and likely many others gay couples have an extreme difficulty with adopting children. I wasn't going to reply to anyone but I felt the need to address this particular comment.

 

I'm pretty sure I can tell if someone is being oppressed or not. Generally I find that no, they're not being oppressed, but the thing with the adoption sounds like an actual problem. I'll have to do some research.

 

You can never fully walk a mile in their shoes, so I do not think that it is justified for you to decide for demographics that you're not apart of and say they're not oppressed. That's just closed-minded and also illogical.

 

Can you recognize when another demographic is oppressed?

 

It is a lot easier to recognize oppression than it is to dismiss it. You can recognize oppression of a demographic easily by hearing the experiences of just a few people.
However, to justify dismissing it, you would have to at least hear the experiences/lack thereof of the majority of 9 million LGBT Americans.

 

Man it hurts when you don't read posts thoroughly. I don't recall mentioning Cancer Awareness or Bullying Prevention. I must be ignorant or something.

 

I mean, I quoted you mentioning that there should be months for bullying victims and chronic diseases. I proved that your argument was unsound, and now you are responding to me with condescension. Considering that ignorance means a lack of information, I suppose so? I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to that

 

Actually, you brought up the point that cancer survivors and bully victims should have their own months too, because we have a month for the LGBT community. Then, Gusta told you that there were indeed months for that. Obviously, you didn't want to recede your point and instead begun to argue dishonestly.

It's not just that, though, I'd consider your point null anyway. I can't exactly pinpoint it, but it's similar to the slippery-slope logical fallacy. Just because LGBT has its own month, you said that every other thing that people are oppressed for should as well, and attempted to use that as reasoning against an LGBT pride month.

 

That's illogical. Just because a couple people had some bad experiences doesn't mean that people in their groups are oppressed.

If I told you that a black guy was harassing me because I'm white, would that mean white people are oppressed?

Why is this different than the other one? That doesn't make any sense. It's a dichotomy. Either there is oppression, or there isn't. If oppression cannot be determined to exist, then it must not.

If I am capable of recognizing the signs of oppression (and I am, that's rhetorical), and there are some, then there is oppression. If there aren't any, then there is no oppression.

 

You're right. I'm not sure how to explain my logic, it took me a bit to even write that. Based on a combination of history / statistics / personal accounts I think it is justified determining whether someone is oppressed. Just by looking at one statistic, you could easily determine that a demographic is oppressed, or at least they've been oppressed at some point.

However, you have no idea what every single person of a demographic has experienced. It's just illogical to dismiss oppression just because _you_ don't see it, because you are not omnipotent or really that important. Acknowledging that a demographic is oppressed is a lot easier and more justifiable because it is easier to prove. There are many more factors determining oppression that you could not account for or see. You would have to analyze every statistic.

I hope that makes more sense.

 

Things aren't that simple. One statistic won't tell you what you need to know. If you look at income, for example, then everybody is being oppressed except for Asians. That is, of course, ridiculous.

Obviously, and I don't really need to.

Not really. Although I might not see it in every day life, if someone can't prove to me that oppression exists using statistics, facts, or at least 4.5 million personal accounts (a majority of LGBT people), then it probably doesn't exist.

How is it more justifiable? And of course, it's the only one you can prove, as a lack of oppression is a negative, and therefore unprovable.

Are there? Let's look at ones that matter: Job availability, that is, can you get a job? Equal pay (we've already gone over this in the gender wage gap. It doesn't really exist, and was just bad math.). Any laws that are discriminatory (none any more).

Beyond that, it isn't oppression so much as bigotry or bullying. And you can choose whether you'll let things like words affect you.

A little, but I still disagree for reasons outlined above.

 

Sure. I don't give a crap.

Like I listed before. Stonewall riots. Major LGBT rulings in the Supreme Court. Some major attacks on LGBT community happened in June. A lot of things in LGBT history just so happen to happen in June.

With whoever wants to celebrate whatever they want in the month of June. It's not like gays want the month all to themselves. It's just a time of the year that was settled on.

LGBT history, basically.

It's not so much pride in being gay. It's pride in being open about it and not worrying about what others think. It may not be as big of a deal today, but a few decades ago it meant serious consequences. Basically, celebrating "pride" became a tradition. Of course, many traditions continued even though they aren't necessary anymore. I don't see what's wrong with continuing tradition in celebrating such a thing. What really is the problem?

 

Okay, what the frick is this? What ever happened to LGB? That was so easy to remember. What do those letters even mean? It looks like someone just slamed their face on the keyboard in rage about how oppressed they feel.

 

The same goes for your name