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The near death of a little boy's life

Discussion in 'Debates' started by nhjed, Jun 8, 2016.

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Did the gorilla have to be shot?

Poll closed Jun 29, 2016.
  1. Yes (explain)

    20 vote(s)
    46.5%
  2. No (explain)

    23 vote(s)
    53.5%
  1. nhjed

    nhjed Celebrity Meeper

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    excuse my poor attempt of a click bait title honestly I should be a you tuber I'm really good at this is could get millions of views

    So I'm surprised none of y'all made a debate on this.

    If you haven't been watching the news, a week or so ago a little boy fell into a gorilla exhibit, and a gorilla found him. The 400 pound gorilla then proceeded to drag the little boy around like a stuffed animal (it was scary but the fact the gorilla was dragging him around so easily is kinda funny I'm sorry lmao). He did not die, but the gorilla did. The gorilla was apart of an endangered species of gorilla and zoo management killed the male silverback gorilla

    Some say the gorilla should've died, some say it shouldn't have.

    What do you think should've happened?

    Discuss
     
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  2. Toostenheimer

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    If you were watching the clip closely, part of it shows the gorilla protecting the kid by standing in front of him. There was no need for shooting the Gorilla.

    Did the boy suffer any bruises or small scratches when he was being dragged? I didn't see the boy being dragged at all, I just see the gorilla actually taking him with him by his side. I'm probably blind, but that was just what I saw.

    The gorilla didn't harm or kill anyone, and was apart of an endangered species. Again, there was no reason to kill it.

    Correct me if I type out any mistakes. It's just my opinion.
     
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  3. Ranger0203

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    I don't think that's what it was doing
    I believe so. He was dragged very violently.


    "The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic." -Joseph Stalin
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 8, 2016, Original Post Date: Jun 8, 2016 ---
    Anyway, in response to the survey, No, the gorilla didn't HAVE to be shot, but yes, it was the right choice. It was the only way to guarantee survival for the kid.
     
  4. Sqreix

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    I think it's just me that I find the boy getting dragged by a huge-ass gorilla is funny
    (Excuse me, I'm just a human x'DDDDD)
     
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  5. Aightfam

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    Why are you quoting someone who killed like 20 million of his own people....
    I don't think thats very valid in this debate
     
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  6. Ranger0203

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    Do you agree with any of these quotes?
    Words build bridges into unexplored regions.
    As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
    Words build bridges into unexplored regions.

    1. “People may not always believe what you say, but they will believe what you do.
      1. “For there is one thing we must never forget… the majority can never replace the man. And no more than a hundred empty heads make one wise man will an heroic decision arise from a hundred cowards.
        1. “God is not moved or impressed with our worship until our hearts are moved and impressed by Him.”

     
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  7. Toostenheimer

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    Alright, thanks for telling me. I only watched a part of the clip.
     
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  8. _Smarties910_

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    same
     
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  9. _Chef_Carrott_

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    How are you supposed to go up to the gorilla and say "thanks for protecting this little boy, can we have him back now" you can't possibly communicate with gorilla. Should the gorilla have been killed? No. But the question I ask you is, how would you get the boy from the gorilla?
     
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  10. j32400

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    Here's the deal. The only way to guarantee the child lives it to shoot the gorilla as soon as possible.
    Even if the gorilla is protecting the child, how do you plan to explain that to the gorilla when you go to get the child out of the enclosure? That's a situation that could turn violent quickly.
    If you attempt to tranquilize the gorilla, it's not very likely that a tranquilizer shot will do it's work instantly, and that second before he goes down could be deadly.
    No one can really know what the gorilla's intentions were, and while they probably weren't violent, there's no other way to guarantee the child's safety than killing the gorilla. And you should never gamble with a human life.
     
  11. Epicdude141

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    Idgaf about the whole situation besides the memes that this spawned. 10/10 memes.
     
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    In the video they said a tranquilizer would have taken too long... I don't know squat about tranquilizers but why couldn't multiple be shot at him to make a faster downfall? Also, it was mentioned that he moved away from people. Would it have worked if they put caution tape around the area to make sure nobody could call to him or hang over the rails to see if the Gorilla would react/lose interest in the boy? Its been done with other species and Gorillas are smart and for the most part caring animals. I don't think he had any intention to kill the boy
     
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    It takes time for the tranquilizers to work, putting tons in him would kill him. They're just like laughing gas except in dart form.
     
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    Well yeah, nice ad hominem, but I can't disagree with you on the latter part considering that the quote really isn't relevant nor applicable imo.

    My views summed up.

    Hahaha, lol, xdd, kek, lel, jej. Absolutely not, don't post anything like that again.
     
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  15. nhjed

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    Yea the gorilla probably wasn't interested he was probably curious.

    But the thing is - you never know what an animal will do.

    Remember the killer whale incident? That killer whale is probably the nicest animal ever but it bit on a girl's pony tail and pulled her underwater and killed her. All because it thought it was being playful.

    Like said before in this thread, a human life is not even up for debate. Tranquilizers could agitate the animal so that wouldn't be the safest bet
     
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    Even if this was true, it would still not be immediate and the gorilla would still have probably gotten angrier and felt more threatened due to the scary thing and the pain of the dart.

    The gorilla did what any wild animal would do. He acted like he normally would. While yeah, it's sad, kid should have known better, parent should have been paying more attention, zoo should be 3 year old proof, none of that matters in that moment. None of that can matter in that life or death situation of that 3 year old.
    I would have been angry if the kid was gotten out safely and the gorilla was euthanized afterwards. But this is just authorities doing their best really.
     
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  17. tristan107366

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    I don't think the zoo even had a choice coase of this event they can easily get sued if they didn't kill the gorilla
     
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  18. CluelessKlutz

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    I would like to point you all to an article written from a former (gorilla) zookeeper.
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...n_the_death_of_gorilla_at_cincinnati_zoo.html
    The tranquilizer would have taken at least ten minutes. Are you really gonna risk a human life on that chance?
     
  19. Jakersf

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    im kidding
     
  20. nhjed

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    it's pretty cool that we're like 90% related to gorillas lmao maybe he was just examining a closely genetic relative
     

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