Regarding Impersonation of a Staff Member

So to clarify, the reason names similar to staff members aren't permitted isn't because of any possible confusion; instead, it's because of an arbitrary decision that "keeping our names and reputation safe" would serve in place of compensating staff for their work?

 

Personally this rule shouldn't be a rule, because if there is a player named interdesirename and he gets staff then anther guys name is interstellar. Why should either of them be "made" to change their name? Yes I agrre that it is annoying sometimes. Are we really going to ban some one for a name similar to anther players name? The way i see it is that staff members are players who volunteer there time and pateince to players. That is what every staff is a player. So really its giving a unfair judgement of regular players messages (Putting staff members a title of higher importance than others). On anther note if your to lazy to spell a staff members name out then your message wasnt that important. There is a difference of intentional impersonation and accidental impersonation. If the player just changes his/her name to something they like then why should they be governed on it? Now here is the intentional impersonation, if a player intentionally says hey im "....." or responds, in a modderation way, to the accidental message then yes they should be banned for impersonation. Not because of a name.

--- Double Post Merged, May 16, 2016, Original Post Date: May 16, 2016 ---

Im pretty sure that would fall under the rule of "harrassment" not impersonation.

--- Double Post Merged, May 16, 2016 ---

So yes protection of a staff members name shouldnt fall under impersonation. It should fall under harrasment. The fact of the matter is, that most staff members see this as a good rule. In reality its not it shows a higher socail stats for staff when really it should show "we are equal as individuals". Which it does not. If you really wanted that fixed the rule should apply to all players not just staff.

 

See this is where I can tell youre arguing to argue.

It is mainly to avoid confusion. I dont need KlutchDimples raiding plots and killing people.
HOWEVER
If Jonseyclutch is here He can keep his name. But if someone CHANGES THEIR NAME TO BE LIKE MINE>
Thats where an issue is.
IF SOMEONE MAKES AN ALT TO HAVE A NAME LIKE MINE.
Issue.
If KlutchMoves joins the server tomorrow, Its not an issue unless they make it one.

The problem is when people do "/msg klutch I need help asap", I dont get it.

So its digression and yeah, us having protected names does compensate us a bit.

 

I suspect banning players over a name is subsequently worse compensation than your boss just paying you guys. We can safely assume that the excuse of confusion is just that, an excuse, because nobody has ever been confused as a staff by a name. People know who everyone is, most of their alts, and any new changes cause players to question the change. Nobody is confused, this is purely an ego issue.

<3 you Klutch, but defense of a stupid, stupid, stupid rule is stupid. Removing players over trivial issues that cause no damage cannot be a successful endeavor. Whoever thought of this rule is a nimcompoop because you'll end up punishing people who truly look up to staff, or a certain staff member and change their name to reflect this in some way.

Just be a good guy, and tell your team to put on their big boy/girl pants and stop having such a sensitive ego where a kid with a similar name offends them so much they just have to ban them to fix the issue.

To reiterate: This rule is as dumb as Donald Trump.

 

I think it would be more like as dumb as Bill and Hillary Clinton.





Edit: Idk how that player quote got in my post.....

 

I have an "e" in my name. Should I be worried?

 

I miss all the Klings, they were a right laugh haha.

 

i wrote the rule originally because a person was telling people who don't know better that they were staff and trying to pay for things for the server and required meebles. they got about 2mil from this. and it has kind of developed since the introduction of name changes. i think more clarification is necessary now.

 

what if you make your name a random string of base 36 "numbers" that justs happens to be _fuzzlr or meepcraftstaff_ or something, theoretically it could possibly happen.

 

that's his alt I think

--- Double Post Merged, May 24, 2016, Original Post Date: May 24, 2016 ---

just fyi he asked klitch in advance and he said no. plus matt is kinda detrimental at times. lastly, klitch's name at the time wasn't klitcher again yet.

--- Double Post Merged, May 24, 2016 ---

did you know today he actually acknowledged global warming? he said it would ruin his golf courses! his solution was to build a dome over the US

 

Oh, my bad :|

 

Okay, I don't understand anymore.
It didn't really matter to me when this post first came out, but now I would appreciate if specific people could hear me out.

First off, it's not about the perks. Staff is not a perk: it's a service. I have never liked banning anyone, and since this seems to be an absurd reason to punish people I don't see why it is necessary.
I will also state that in my Minecraft life I have seen the names BeriHeika, PinkChuPikaPoo, GrenChuPikaWoo, and Peri. If anything that seems more respectful in my eyes as they are showing a display of affection by following your name style. No, I do not agree that the name "PeriHeika" compared to "PerHeika" should be allowed, however none of the examples used in this debate have been of the sort.
You're also meaning to tell me, that a name such as "Klutchawesome" is bannable for harassment, but if we were to take @cooey and someone were to rename themselves "cooey_should_die" it won't be under the same circumstances because he is not staff? If we were to take this impersonation rule away and use the harassment agenda everyone will be protected no matter what.
Either use better examples of why impersonation is bad, or explain to me as to why the players are unequal to the staff.

I don't understand how protecting a Minecraft name has anything to do with being paid on a Minecraft server. If anyone wants respect we earn it, and if there is a player who is literate enough to ask for help on Meepcraft they are also capable to see that "KlutcDecals" is different than "KlutchDickles"

The perk is keeping the community satisfied. If that's not enough for anyone they aren't staff for the right reasons.

 

But I can guaranteeeeeeeee if I renamed myself to Dickjed I wouldn't last longer than 30 minutes. What makes it acceptable for you to do it? There's no overlooking the inside joke in the name KlutchDICKles. If I recall correctly, the other day I got banned for saying something smaller than that. But who even cares I've gotten banned 30 times on this server - right?

Keep your username you bearded freak, but the fact that you can let s*** slide and I can't makes it seem like you're a cop driving 80mph without his lights on in a 60mph driving zone (don't judge my analogies)

//rant

 

I agree with this pretty much.

 

That's a good question that I have never thought about. There was a Strengthens and me (Strengthened) at one time and people to confused easily. People started putting in chat "Wasn't Strengthned exclusive just a minute ago?" Because I was exclusive and Strengthens wasn't. I also did sometimes get messages that were meant for Strengthens. This just shows how easily people can get confused when two people have similar name.

--- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2016, Original Post Date: May 25, 2016 ---

TBH I used to get confused with cooey and cooleysworld xD

 

Wasnt actually my account, and I told the person to change it after 30 days. Nice rant though. LOL

--- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2016, Original Post Date: May 25, 2016 ---

Im not really sure where you were going with this but um.... most was a joke.

Basically the way the rules fall are like this.

Harrasment - KlutchSucks, Klutch_isdumb, ect. This rule applies to everyone on the server that has someone rename something after them. If legendcaleb didnt want legendgayleb, I would have the player change it.

Impersonation - KlutDecals, Klutch_decals, (or someone sying "Im klutch on an alt"). Bannable anyway.

Sexref is obvious.

Anything we use judgment to decide is a purposeful hit on the staff or players is what we go off of. If a totally random player had KlutckKick, and hes like woah ironic! I wouldnt make them change it. But if anyone here changes it, its pretty obvious the reason is to annoy or troll.

Better?

 

+1

 

Then why does impersonation need to be exclusive for staff when everyone is protected regardless?

 

Is this what you spend all night worrying about?
Its because if nothing was in the rules, people would cry that its not a rule. So its a generalized rule just to cover the basics.

This has never been an issue but now it is because ?? idk. haha

 

Direct impersonation of another player is legal
Direct impersonation of a staff is not

Changing your name to PerHeika so long as periheika is not staff is legal. Annoying? yes. Stupid? Yes. Illegal? no.
Changing it to PerHeika while she is staff would make people confused about Peri and her staff position, cause possibly some mixed messages meant to go to the staff member, as well as leading to the believe that Peri was demoted, resigned, etc

With impersonation of a player it's merely minor confusion and annoyance as long as it's not harassment. You change your name to PeriHeikaSucks, you're gonna get asked to change your name because it's harassment.
With impersonation of a staff member the confusion is a lot more noticeable, annoying, and possibly problematic in several ways.

If PerHeika were to join while periheika was staff on the server, they would not be asked to change their name unless it became a problem. The chances of that kind of thing happening are pretty damn small though.

The only issues in the past that I can remember is one instance when Courneyyy was named courtneymitchell and someone changed their name to courtneymitchel. They left out 1 L
It looked very similar and cause issues, as well as the person literally saying ''I'm courtney, I'm a staff''
That's really it